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Lightbringer · 2018-04-24T22:41:43.000Z

leaftye:

cu42:

leaftye:

I’m interested unless this is one of those deals where your refund via paypal after a review is posted.

I have been successful with this arrangement so far…

It has to do with bias. The implication is that if you don’t post a positive review, you won’t get the refund.

Takes a while to do a decent review. There are meaningless but instant “Ooh, I love this X!! (Now gimme what you promised…)” reviews just to put out a “positive” review, or those where you actually use the X in question, but it takes a while.

I’d doubt anyone would refuse a PP refund until you put up the review. If you get tired of waiting, you can always return the thingy. And being in a sour mood, you might be tempted to post a negative review. That’s not nice, either, but it’s possible.

I don’t recall if I ever did one of those “refund-by-PP” review dealies. I was approached to do one, but didn’t have any PP account, had no idea how it’d work, etc., so I think that just fizzled out.

But even so, I’d be interested. I’ve pointed out both good and bad things in reviews, so I like to think I’m fair.

WalkIntoTheLight · 2018-04-24T23:11:45.000Z

leaftye:

cu42:

leaftye:

I’m interested unless this is one of those deals where your refund via paypal after a review is posted.

I have been successful with this arrangement so far…

It has to do with bias. The implication is that if you don’t post a positive review, you won’t get the refund.

That does seem to be the implication. Unless it’s a very expensive light, in which case I can see they might want to ensure a proper review is done.

Speed4goal · 2018-04-24T23:37:47.000Z

Well he mentions Amazon so I don’t think PayPal is involved it’s probably a 99 percent off code.

leaftye · 2018-04-24T23:55:13.000Z

Speed4goal:

Well he mentions Amazon so I don’t think PayPal is involved it’s probably a 99 percent off code.

They definitely still do it. I was approached last week about it. They also wanted to see my Amazon review history first.

RobertB · 2018-04-25T00:22:11.000Z

I get offers to review almost daily. They almost all want you to buy at full price and get refunded via paypal. That way they don’t get caught by Amazon for fake reviews.

Lightbringer · 2018-04-25T01:03:12.000Z

Speed4goal:

Well he mentions Amazon so I don’t think PayPal is involved it’s probably a 99 percent off code.

But then you don’t get “verified purchase” or whatever. Discounts and freebies don’t count.

Kinda sux when you get something as a gift and can’t “legitimately” review it.

lightdoctor · 2018-04-25T01:06:00.000Z

It is a camping light/ tent light. If you are interested, send me private message to get details.

Muto · 2018-04-25T01:08:17.000Z

I got your “tent” right here

Eff reviews, done with them, not worth the time and effort just to feel like a whore regardless if you are telling the truth.
Whole industry is a mess anymore.

maildroid · 2018-04-25T02:33:26.000Z

Pm intrested

cu42 · 2018-04-25T03:53:23.000Z

I gave an honest review on a flashlight a week or so ago. I did point out the things I didnt like about it, but didnt dwell on them and make it personal. I made it fairly factual so it was informational and not a bunch of opinion and drivel.

The thought did cross my mind though, that if they didnt like it, there may not be a refund, but at the same time, a return also crossed my mind even though I probably would not have bothered.

cu42 · 2018-04-25T03:46:33.000Z

Lightbringer:

Stittville Ed:

ImA4Wheelr:

If it looks like this, I’m totally in.

You must have a very large tent

He’s glamping.

Speed4goal · 2018-04-25T03:56:41.000Z

leaftye:

Speed4goal:

Well he mentions Amazon so I don’t think PayPal is involved it’s probably a 99 percent off code.

They definitely still do it. I was approached last week about it. They also wanted to see my Amazon review history first.

I take my statement back I just got the pm wanted to see my amazon history and wants to do PayPal. I figured when he mentioned Amazon it would be how thorfire or others do it. Just give you a discount code. I’m all about doing a review on here, amazon. Possibly YouTube etc. But your not going to hold my money ransom for it. A return could be done, but shouldn’t have to be. I’m going to give as unbiased review as possible and give the pros and cons. I feel like its black mail let me make sure you write good reviews first. And if you give it bad review no refund for you. I feel like a deal like this is implying that. Send the light half price, free or do a 99 percent discount code no strings attached. Like most companies do that I’ve seen on here. No other compensation or strings besides receiving a light in the mail. And not a rushed review either. The light should be used for a couple weeks or so.
It’s honestly the first time I’ve heard about doing a review this way. Purchase the light and be refunded afterwards. I wonder how many reviews on here have been done this way.

cu42 · 2018-04-25T04:18:00.000Z

Speed4goal:

leaftye:

Speed4goal:

Well he mentions Amazon so I don’t think PayPal is involved it’s probably a 99 percent off code.

They definitely still do it. I was approached last week about it. They also wanted to see my Amazon review history first.

I take my statement back I just got the pm wanted to see my amazon history and wants to do PayPal. I’m all about doing a review on here, amazon. Possibly YouTube etc. But your not going to hold my money ransom for it. I’m going to give as unbiased review as possible and give the pros and cons. I feel like its black mail let me make sure you write good reviews first. And if you give it bad review no refund for you. I feel like a deal like this is implying that. Send the light half price, free or do a 99 percent discount code no strings attached. Like most companies do that I’ve seen on here. No other compensation or strings besides receiving a light in the mail. And not a rushed review either. The light should be used for a couple weeks or so

I agree on the couple of weeks thing. The shiny new toy factor wears off after that and you get the real impression then.

Speed4goal · 2018-04-25T04:24:43.000Z

Ya the new toy factor wears off like you said and gives you a chance to get some real world use and see if any quirks or flickers pop up etc. Taking it out the box for a couple hours and taking some pictures doesn’t really give you a feel for the light. Not that 2 weeks gives you an idea of longevity. But if issues don’t pop up in 2 or 3 weeks they probably won’t

Lightbringer · 2018-04-25T15:06:08.000Z

cu42:

I agree on the couple of weeks thing. The shiny new toy factor wears off after that and you get the real impression then.

True dat.

I really preferred the SP10B UI over the old/original A. The B has F/L/M in the main cycle, 2click for H. Seemed more useful to me, especially being able to 2click even from off to get H.

The A has L/M/H, no F, and 2click from anywhere gives the annoying strobe.

Yet after I’ve been carrying both, A and B, the A is growing on me, and I’ve been leaving the B at home.

I still see the advantages/disadvantages of both (that’s my “solution”, just get one of each), but while I originally eschewed the A in favor of the B, lately (and that might change given the circumstances) I’ve been using the A more than the B.

So you really do need to wait ’til that shine’s off the apple before you can really give a detailed and unbiased review of the pros/cons.

Vegas_LED_Fan · 2018-04-25T15:29:53.000Z

Just curious! If someone has received a PM from lightdoctor, just how much are you required to spend upfront to review the light? What does it look like. What batteries are required?

I doubt if I would be interested as I have been using a 60 LED, 3 mode (5, 17, 60 LED), 3X AAA or 1X 18650 battery, ~5 oz umbrella tent light that I bought from Banggood more than two years ago. It meets all my needs for a tent light. If there is no loop in the tent to attach it at the peak you can just use a small binder clip to attach the light hook to the tent seam. The price for the same light has dropped so much you can now buy them on eBay for $6 or less. The price is hard to beat for the results you get.

SubSailorVet · 2018-04-25T15:55:40.000Z

Muto:

I got your “tent” right here

Eff reviews, done with them, not worth the time and effort just to feel like a whore regardless if you are telling the truth.
Whole industry is a mess anymore.

Agreed! Before people ruined things for honest reviewers I was getting a lot of great items for free or heavily discounted. People were giving g 5 star reviews for crap items. I have over 4000 items in my office acquired by product for review because I was writing honest professional reviews. Glad I got while the getting was good

sochi111 · 2018-04-26T21:39:23.000Z

DavidEF:

sochi111:

neo71665:

In a hammock room is even more limited. If I hung my s2+ up it would basically be in my face. I pack light but I’m not from the school I have to weigh everything and throw something out over a few ounces.

Why not get an ALL IN ONE hammock/light ?

Wait a minute… Does she come with it?

Yes that’s right she come free of charge, just S&H might be pricey.

Speed4goal · 2018-04-26T22:32:57.000Z

You always pay to play either way. Even if it’s dinner and a movie, or a few drinks at a bar, no play is ever free

Always found it funny when guys say they don’t pay for it

RobertB · 2018-04-26T23:37:09.000Z

Speed4goal:

leaftye:

Speed4goal:

Well he mentions Amazon so I don’t think PayPal is involved it’s probably a 99 percent off code.

They definitely still do it. I was approached last week about it. They also wanted to see my Amazon review history first.

I take my statement back I just got the pm wanted to see my amazon history and wants to do PayPal. I figured when he mentioned Amazon it would be how thorfire or others do it. Just give you a discount code. I’m all about doing a review on here, amazon. Possibly YouTube etc. But your not going to hold my money ransom for it. A return could be done, but shouldn’t have to be. I’m going to give as unbiased review as possible and give the pros and cons. I feel like its black mail let me make sure you write good reviews first. And if you give it bad review no refund for you. I feel like a deal like this is implying that. Send the light half price, free or do a 99 percent discount code no strings attached. Like most companies do that I’ve seen on here. No other compensation or strings besides receiving a light in the mail. And not a rushed review either. The light should be used for a couple weeks or so.
It’s honestly the first time I’ve heard about doing a review this way. Purchase the light and be refunded afterwards. I wonder how many reviews on here have been done this way.

Just tell them they have 24hrs to refund your paypal or you will give them a bad review and return the product. They can’t say anything to Amazon, since what they are doing is against the rules in the first place . Also, Amazon charges sellers a substantial fee for returns. Shipping fees, and a transaction fee.