Okay all I know I ha e asked many a time have taken jabs at Monster Lights and my buddy who just paid 200.00$+ for this light
Model #PowerStarOur Brightest Flashlight $219.99 plus $11.99 s/h in USA
MF Tactical 3xU2 Tactical LE D 3300 Lumens Max - 5 Mode and now on Sunday our church will be having its quarterly shoot out and as it gets dark everyone brings out their torches, which I felt secure as “TOP DOG” with my Mod did Small Sun TY-08 molded for by Relic 38 with a MT-G2 emitter and a dry driver so now need I worry and pass on the proverbial torch? Just wondering what your guy’ and gals take is on this match up.thanks!
I have a 100 watt Short-Arc HID marine search light you can borrow to compete with. 
( though it weights 32 lbs.
30 watts is about the limit of reason for the MT-G2 imho… If you can do that you should be at 2600 lumens otf. Should being the operative word. Direct drive with two cells in series should get you that, but it will be a battery burner.
I have not heard of Powerstar before but I just checked out the website.
Head is 3 inches which is 75mm (to my calculation) but I dont know how much throw it’s got. Multiple emitters are usually more towards flood. They describe the emitters as U2 but they don’t say if they are XML or XML2. While it will probably have more actual light out the front than the T08, it might not throw as well, depending on what mods you have on your T08.
You may still be in the running
If you lose this ‘shoot out’.
Is he married?
Are you married? Relax, Im not going there.
If the answer to both is yes, and you feel the need to say something, just say within earshot of his wife, ‘yeah but I took my wife out to dinner with the considerable savings I made’. Just make sure your wife does not hear.
Just this year transitioned over from XMLT6 to XMLU2 not the X ml 2’s and I am running 2 18650s Panasonic bs in series on turbo relic was hitting2475 lumens before 3 minute step down with unprotected high drains 18650s which I have Samsung 20 rs but they are to short and don’t contact the springs.Barret I may take you up on that HID Arc but it may set the dry desert vegetation a blasé with the intense beam lol thanks I almost just over a year ago myself almost bought into Monster flash lights so that is how I became a member on this forum, and that goodness some members talked me down from making a brash decizion.
are devious lol I’d hate to resort to this but it isn’t below what I may do, ma I gotta stop this, this is supposed to be a church family function I keep listening to the guy on my left shoulder wearing red and a pith fork ! Lol
I’m actually surprised to see that nice of a light on their site. With a three inch head it’s on par with a TK75. It’s hard to say what it’s actually driven at though. If driven hard enough it should be able to out throw your’s by a lot and have similar flood.
Their batteries are a bit of a joke. 3.5amp is not exactly super heavy duty power. They say the flashlight is taking 2.8 to 4 amps. I have no idea what they mean by that.
Your light will have the nicer tint and much more compact size, but I do think it will be getting beat in lumens and throw unless this is terribly under-powered.
I think this is the light in question. I believe the site was discussed a while back for their ridiculous prices on some of the common budget lights.
This lil 3 emitter someone pointed out as well iirc.
Based on the info/pictures of the 3xml, your T08 definitely wins on form factor, beam profile, and cost… Not really sure about output/throw. I do know I certainly wouldn’t buy the monster flashlight.
…that’s the Beast right there !
There's no way the MT-G2 out throws that light. Is the competition for total output or throw? If it's total output then you should just bypass that driver and go direct drive with the MT-G2 w/ 20Rs... it will hold that kind of power for a minute or so before getting too hot to hold, if your switch holds up! Otherwise the MT-G2 just can't compete with XM-Ls for throw in similar sized lights.
Also, I'm guessing that your 20R cells ARE long enough, but because they are flat top they aren't making contact on the positive pole.
3,300 lumens rated - Either one of my J18's would totally toast that thing (J18 #1: 6,800 lumens, J18 #2: 8,900 lumens)... Not to mention a modded Shocker - toast it in lumens and throw (5,000+ lumens with domes). Of course lots of other lights can get beyond 3,300, like a modded up SRK - think Dale modded a M6 that does 3,900 lumens that rdrfronty or manxbuggy1 has. Actually the modded M6 would be perfect to show him up with: smaller, neater package, pocketable, more lumens, more throw most likely.
My partial modded M6 (just resistor mods) does about 3,250 lumens, over 400 meters throw.
Dunno bout your T08 - a single MT-G2 is not your best option going against a well driven 3 emitter light. A lot depends on how real the 3,300 lumens is - could be made up (partial Chinese) or conservatively measured.
Thinking that Monster light is pretty dated - XML U2, not XM-L2 U2, but they don't say or show the emitters. All their stuff is over priced and outdated, it looks like. I would think 3,300 lumens is not real. 3 XML U2's at 2.8A -- maybe 2,700 max?
Kinda what I was thinking because they are using XMLU2 s not xml2’s and most of Monster Lights are over rated, and yes Richard I know we’ll driven xml2’s will out throw a MT-G2 I am just hoping that the Monsters power star is over rated like the rest of their products .
The more I think bout it, that poor guy got totally ripped off. All they do is marketing spin. Think my modded FandyFire triple that looks like that light, but with only 2 cells, does about 2,800 lumens with XM-L2 U2's on copper and at 3A per emitter.
It might be overpriced but honestly the light looks decent and should have good output. Of course a modded BTU Shocker would destroy it for less money, but I really don't think that a DRY driven ZY-T08 has a chance unless it is a big dud. Mine pulls about 6.5A on two 20Rs which is probably about 3000 lumens, but it is a very floody 3000 lumens even in the ZY-T08 (although you do at least get SOME hotspot with that light!). On lesser cells it only does about 5A.
Yes, my FandyFire STL-V2 here: fasttech-fandyfire-stl-v2 is nice, but the Monster light with a SS bezel and side switch, 3 cells is a step up in quality/looks, but think about what you can get for $215 nowadays.
One thing I noticed is that it can also run on 6 batteries. So with only three it might be underdriven. Also it’s hard to tell how big that reflector really is. Three inches at the head could still mean only a 2 inch reflector because that light has some heatsinking sticking out the side.
I’m thinking it’s inline with an SP03, Lustefire, Marsfire tripple or maybe the J19. I have all of these lights. The J19 is the most underdriven. I did a de-domed ZY-T08 MT-G2 with a DRY and it was very close in power and throw to the stock J19.
If you de-domed it and ran it direct drive with the 20’rs you might be able to beat it if it’s underdriven like the J19 which has a reflector that is about that size.
I would probably buy that light if it was a hundred bucks. No way would pay $200.
Also you could out throw him with the ZY-T08 by putting a de-domed XM-L2 on copper. You can even run the DRY driver, just use really long super thin wires to add resistance and DON’T run the 20r’s or it becomes Puff the Magic Dragon. I did that setup once, it was around 250kck, I think, but I can’t remember off hand. It would have double the throw of his light I’m sure.
18sixfifty, to run the DRY driver with an XM-L2 wouldn't he need to switch the light back to parallel configuration? I don't think that the original DRY is a buck driver.
The day of the shootout cough ought cough ugh . I don’t feel so good 
lol oh well I couldn’t keep it up forever I d just hate to loose to him because he insists monster light are made in USA and that the lumen ratings are correct on them because monster stamps the ratio g and there fore it is by some law he believes exists.