First budget 18650 light - Solarforce?

I ordered some switch internals to make my L2T reverse instead of forward. I hope they can withstand the high current draw of my Manafont XM-L drop-in.

Lol, yup, you are in the exact same position as me. I'm tempted to get the silver L2 from itc as that says it's reverse clicky:

Can I ask why you prefer the SF drop in? It's just a lot of people are saying the UF from Manafont is the one to go for. And yes, I think we need Foy in this thread :) Been looking at his reviews.

Wow, that is cheap! Are they genuine/the same as you would get from

I just got those switches. I used one (well 2 since I butchered the first) in a Maglite mod. The traces on the circuit board seem to pull off very easily. I haven't finished yet (ie. haven't fired it up on the new switch), but my Mag was drawing around 1.6A from (2) 18650's.

I too would like to hear why.


They are genuinely fake... read not original SF... but that doesn't mean they are bad. I have a fake L2 in silver here as my 4AA XP-G setup and a black UF 504B with 3AA and an XM-L (with spacer and additional extensions). So far no complaints, fit and finish may not reach SF level but I'm pretty happy with mine. The dual setup for ~10.80 is especially nice because you can optionally run 2x18650 setup which rock runtime-wise. So they are pretty what I want SF to carry on their site. The L2m is too short for 18650... make sure to get the full L2 version. I like the matte finish of the L2T and the L2P better than the old SF L2 and these fakes.... but I have no trouble recommending them. They are even thread compatible with the originals.

How are you running 4 AA's in an L2? Bunch of extensions and sleeve so batteries don't rattle? Isn't that awfully long and skinny?


Yes, Yes, Yes and Yes ;-)... but somehow I like my Frankenlights and they are perfect for those with LiIon-phobia. The spacers are the tricky parts to get.

The Superfire 501C 2AA is missing in that line-up.... So I have 2AA, 3AA and 4AA lights based on 18650 tubes... I think old4570 went as far as 6AA in series ... It all came from my inability to find decent cheap C- or D-cell lights

These parts would make a nice start for a 3AA Manafont XM-L 3mode combo (1,2,3)

I have both the Manafont and Solarforce XM-L Drop ins. The Manafont XM-L is a nice drop in that really spews out a lot of light and is extremely powerful. I also have the Solarforce XM-L that is also very nice. It is a little less powerful, and does not get as hot as the Manafont. I also like the tint of the light. I feel that the benefits far outweigh the negatives as far as the less light and less heat coming from the host. The Solarforce XM-L still spews a tremendous amount of light, but I feel the drop in better suits what I was looking for in a light. Sometimes a little less is more. But I do like both of them.

Are these really reverse clickies? A member of another forum wants to repelcae his L2p forward ckicky with a reverse. I told him to take the manafonts. He wrote a question to manafont and they told him, that is would be a forward clicky.

Now he bought for $3,99 the option of the solarforce-sales service team - they offer him the inner parts of a reverse switch. He will post some pictures, when he gets it.

You know, I'm not sure. I've been fumbling with this mod and haven't finished it yet (very close). I haven't paid attention to whether it's forward or reverse.

Well Vectrex I have gone ahead and ordered one of Lightake's "L2" bodies on your word! Better be good! (Just kidding) This will be my first P60 light. I also ordered the 3mode XM-T6 drop-in Lightake had and used coupon code "retailmenot". I know the drop-in may not be great, but I can swap the driver.

(My fingers have been itching to push the PayPal button on something lately.)


Can't go wrong with - has everything you need, fast shipping, great prices.

And exceptional customer service.

Yup. I should have included that as well.

Whoa, you're from Wisconsin as well. Where about?

With regard to the bezel issue, while you can't go wrong with either choice 2 or 3, the slightly aggressive #3 has the added benefit of leaking more light out from under bezel if the light is left on and lens down. This is something that has helped in my household where the wife and kids love to use all the flashlights but are not always so diligent about turning them off.

I also remember that at least one member here ground down the stock bezel, thus making it into something similar to #3. A viable option if you have the tools, time, and talent.

It's the infamous "Foybezel"!


^ Who else could it have been other than FamousFoy. I should have know. It sure did turn out nice, didn't it?

Thanks for finding that for me/us, Garry.

This is a better example . . .

Just found this thread.

It used to be simple at Solarforce-sales, all L2Ps were tailstanding reverse clickies and all L2s were "tactical" non-tail standing reverse clickies. Without warning (either that or I just didn't re-read thier clear as mud descriptions) the next L2Ps I got arrived as forward clickies. Not huge deal, although I do somewhat prefer a reverse clickie. Also, as I've said before; other than the tail cap, the difference between an L2P and the new version L2 is hardly worth mentioning but the L2 is cheaper.

I apologize for being so repetitive about this but an L2 with the 3-mode UF XM-L drop-in from Manafont (SKU 5720) will be the best $30 flashlight you will ever purchase. Period. Yes, the stock L2 bezel is stupid. Hence, the inspiration for Foybezel™ so, I suppose a different bezel must be figured into the price but there's not a better quality host, that I'm aware of.

I've seen inconsistent quality occasionally with the older style L2s (mainly with colors other than black) and I've yet to hear of anyone not liking their L2T . . .

(that link I put up makes me miss my black L2T)


l2t is the most tactical looking out of them, but the l2t chips/scratches pretty easily, dropped a screw driver, a little pocket one on the body of my l2t 6 to 12 inches, took a chip off, good thing my gf had some flat black nail polish. i dropped my solarforce xml drop in hard today, from about 3 or 4 feet onto hard tile flooring while rewrapping it with aluminum foil, slipped out of my hand, put a little dent on the lip at the top of the reflector. i finished wrapping it, threw it into my l2m 1 cr123 body with l2t head and tail cap, still worked. l2m head doesnt screw all the way down onto l2t body in case anyone is wondering, about a 2 to 3 mm gap.

there looks to be fakes out there, i think solarforce hosts are fakes.

my solarforce 3 mode xml pulls about 1.6 to 1.7 amps max unprotected 2900mah redilast 18650s, and max 1.4 running trustfire flames protected, it doesn't get hot at all on the trustfires, thats one reason to have that drop in, tested current with my expensive fluke meter, have also measured the heat with an infrared thermometer after over 5 minutes of runtime never going over 100 degrees farenheit i don't know how to convert it, at host body, host thread, and reflector body. ill have some measurements on the uf xml dropin soon.

Just read this, very interesting. I have two things to say, the first one to the OP. I am afraid I don't think you will get your Klarus, I could be wrong but I had one on order and was told it was out of stock (at the price I bought it) forever!

The second thing, Garry is that a Mercian in you avitar? Looks like it has a barbers pole.


I emailed solarforce-sales and they said the only reverse clicky L2 is this one:

No L2Ps :( If this has a matt black finish, i might just go for that if Foy says there isnt much difference- dont know if it tail stands though.

Or i could get a black L2P and also buy a reverse clicky tail switch but it will be expensive and im not sure its worth it. Also dont know if the tail switch would match in colour :S

I ordered it at the cheap price too. They have been giving me the run around as well. Live chat has said its in stock, Summer said it hasnt been in stock and will be shipped next week. Im not too convinced tbh and seriously unimpressed. I will will lay the smackdown on them soon if they dont ship it as promised and it will be my first and last order.

Ha my name is Marc too and we ordered the exact same light!