Yes, stopping would be good in my opinion.

If you aren’t expected to be able to hit the mark then the blink seems a lot less useful to me?

It’s a mile marker along the road, not a destination.

Tried 6 times from off. Just played with my Q8 and I had to remove the batteries again…

An elderly man can not remember how many times 4-5-6 he has to click on a flashlight mode.

…

What were you trying to do?

ToyKeeper: cabfrank:So this will have lightning and candle blinkies? Is party strobe the one that makes movements look slow motion, and will this have that too?

Yes.

Tixx:I like the blink at moon because the Crescendo UI ramps down and up without stopping.

I’ve been meaning to change that, actually… do you think Crescendo should stop at the ends of the ramp? After spending more time on other ramping UIs, I’ve found it’s nice having it stop on its own.

On the FW3A, at least, the plan is for the ramp to stop at both ends. To turn around, release the button and hold it again.

Yes, stopping would be good in my opinion.

+1 here, about Crescendo! And sorry for off-topic!

I’ve been using Crescendo firmware for the last few days and I find it “strange” to reach the bottom/top and then continue to ramp on the opposite direction. Stopping on the top or bottom thresholds would be nice

It will not be the case of the FW3A, of course! And so far I’m finding this Anduril UI incredible (only by seeing the diagram) :+1:

Tried 6 times from off. Just played with my Q8 and I had to remove the batteries again…

An elderly man can not remember how many times 4-5-6 he has to click on a flashlight mode.

…

Ah, you flashed the latest Anduril onto a Q8?

If a light is meant to be owned permanently by someone who needs an extra-simple interface, this might not be a good light for them. It’s meant more for enthusiasts, and muggle mode is intended for the occasions when someone else needs to borrow a light for a few hours or less.

For permanent muggle use I’d suggest something with significantly less power so it won’t be prone to starting fires. Probably something with a built-in charger too. Olight S1R or S20R might be a good option.

However, if it helps, the FW3A can be reflashed with something simpler. There are a few other UIs available already, including an Olight clone. And a simple UI is reasonably simple to make, if anyone wants a muggle-only firmware.

It really depends on the recipient. I’ve known people close to a century old who were sharp as a tack, who could figure out a complex UI with no manual, then use it with ease. I’ve also known people who were totally lost even on simple interfaces, no matter how much others tried to help explain it. In stock form, the FW3A won’t be appropriate for the latter. But it does at least have a short-term use mode that the latter should be okay with.

As a reminder, the options are: (where in the ramp to blink)

- A. Floor
- B. ~150 lm, level 65/150
- C. ~1000 lm, level 130/150 (highest regulated level)
- D. Ceiling

B, C, & D Please

Best Regards,

George

C. ~1000 lm, level

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C

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Hello!

Id like to be put down for one flashlight, thanks!

Freethink

Thanks, TK. Amazing.

one for me thank you

This looks like a cool light. Though how does this differentiate itself from say, a Jaxman E2L other than 100 more lumens?

This looks like a cool light. Though how does this differentiate itself from say, a Jaxman E2L other than 100 more lumens?

Smaller, e-switch + advanced UI, way more than 100 lumens diff unless u mean modded E2L, built for a clip, and the run time should be better than a comparably priced light if it’s 3 channels.

sovereignknight:This looks like a cool light. Though how does this differentiate itself from say, a Jaxman E2L other than 100 more lumens?

Smaller, e-switch + advanced UI, way more than 100 lumens diff unless u mean modded E2L, built for a clip, and the run time should be better than a comparably priced light if it’s 3 channels.

Well then, I think I’d be interested in two of them at the $30.00 ea price range!

Put me on the list for two please!

Though how does this differentiate itself from say, a Jaxman E2L

Jaxman E2L

size = Convoy S2

Did you mean 100 lumens or **2100** lumens?

Try this:

MountainKing:What are the projected modes and runtimes for this baby? I could be interested if it has anything in the 30lumens/60-70hrs runtime.

It has smooth ramping… so it has every brightness level from ~0.1 lm to ~3000 lm, and it has every runtime from ~20 minutes to ~80 days.

sovereignknight:Did you mean 100 lumens or

2100lumens?

Try this: ToyKeeper: MountainKing:What are the projected modes and runtimes for this baby? I could be interested if it has anything in the 30lumens/60-70hrs runtime.

It has smooth ramping… so it has every brightness level from ~0.1 lm to ~3000 lm, and it has every runtime from ~20 minutes to ~80 days.

Is there some rough computation guide for lumens to runtime (let’s assume the battery is a 3000mAh 18650 like an LG HG2 or INR18650-30Q)?

(eg. 3A ~ 1000 lumens? so that’s about 1 hour if can continuously run at that current; but how about for the other approximation of current to lumens)

Is there some rough computation guide for lumens to runtime (let’s assume the battery is a 3000mAh 18650 like an LG HG2 or INR18650-30Q)?

I’ve been meaning to make a table for that… and there’s no time like the present.

This is only an estimate, generated by plugging the firmware’s PWM values into a script with some guesses about the power draw and lumen output… but it should give people a rough idea what to expect.

All 150 ramp levels with a 3000 mAh cell:

```
1: 0.2 lm, 2 mA, 74 days
2: 0.2 lm, 2 mA, 74 days
3: 0.8 lm, 3 mA, 41 days
4: 0.8 lm, 3 mA, 41 days
5: 1.5 lm, 4 mA, 28 days
6: 1.5 lm, 4 mA, 28 days
7: 2.1 lm, 7 mA, 17 days
8: 2.1 lm, 7 mA, 17 days
9: 2.7 lm, 9 mA, 14 days
10: 3.3 lm, 10 mA, 12 days
11: 4.0 lm, 11 mA, 11 days
12: 4.6 lm, 13 mA, 10 days
13: 5.2 lm, 14 mA, 9 days
14: 5.9 lm, 16 mA, 8 days
15: 7.1 lm, 18 mA, 7 days
16: 7.7 lm, 22 mA, 6 days
17: 8.4 lm, 24 mA, 5 days
18: 9.0 lm, 25 mA, 5 days
19: 10.3 lm, 28 mA, 5 days
20: 11.5 lm, 30 mA, 4 days
21: 12.2 lm, 32 mA, 94 hours
22: 13.4 lm, 35 mA, 87 hours
23: 14.7 lm, 37 mA, 80 hours
24: 15.9 lm, 40 mA, 75 hours
25: 17.8 lm, 44 mA, 68 hours
26: 19.1 lm, 47 mA, 64 hours
27: 21.0 lm, 51 mA, 59 hours
28: 22.2 lm, 54 mA, 56 hours
29: 24.1 lm, 58 mA, 52 hours
30: 26.0 lm, 62 mA, 48 hours
31: 27.9 lm, 66 mA, 45 hours
32: 29.8 lm, 70 mA, 43 hours
33: 31.7 lm, 74 mA, 40 hours
34: 34.2 lm, 80 mA, 38 hours
35: 36.7 lm, 85 mA, 35 hours
36: 38.6 lm, 90 mA, 33 hours
37: 41.1 lm, 95 mA, 32 hours
38: 43.6 lm, 101 mA, 30 hours
39: 46.8 lm, 107 mA, 28 hours
40: 49.3 lm, 113 mA, 27 hours
41: 52.4 lm, 120 mA, 25 hours
42: 55.6 lm, 127 mA, 24 hours
43: 58.1 lm, 132 mA, 23 hours
44: 61.9 lm, 140 mA, 21 hours
45: 65.0 lm, 147 mA, 20 hours
46: 68.8 lm, 156 mA, 19 hours
47: 71.9 lm, 162 mA, 18 hours
48: 75.7 lm, 171 mA, 18 hours
49: 79.5 lm, 179 mA, 17 hours
50: 83.9 lm, 189 mA, 16 hours
51: 87.6 lm, 197 mA, 15 hours
52: 92.1 lm, 206 mA, 15 hours
53: 96.5 lm, 216 mA, 14 hours
54: 100.9 lm, 226 mA, 13 hours
55: 105.3 lm, 235 mA, 13 hours
56: 110.3 lm, 246 mA, 12 hours
57: 115.3 lm, 257 mA, 12 hours
58: 120.4 lm, 268 mA, 11 hours
59: 125.4 lm, 279 mA, 11 hours
60: 131.1 lm, 292 mA, 10 hours
61: 136.1 lm, 303 mA, 10 hours
62: 141.8 lm, 315 mA, 10 hours
63: 148.0 lm, 329 mA, 9 hours
64: 153.7 lm, 341 mA, 9 hours
65: 160.0 lm, 355 mA, 8 hours
66: 164.7 lm, 370 mA, 8 hours
67: 172.1 lm, 389 mA, 8 hours
68: 179.5 lm, 408 mA, 7 hours
69: 186.9 lm, 427 mA, 7 hours
70: 194.3 lm, 447 mA, 7 hours
71: 205.4 lm, 476 mA, 6 hours
72: 212.8 lm, 495 mA, 6 hours
73: 220.1 lm, 514 mA, 6 hours
74: 227.5 lm, 533 mA, 6 hours
75: 238.6 lm, 562 mA, 5 hours
76: 246.0 lm, 581 mA, 5 hours
77: 253.4 lm, 596 mA, 5 hours
78: 264.5 lm, 625 mA, 5 hours
79: 271.9 lm, 644 mA, 5 hours
80: 283.0 lm, 673 mA, 4 hours
81: 294.1 lm, 702 mA, 4 hours
82: 301.5 lm, 721 mA, 4 hours
83: 312.6 lm, 750 mA, 4 hours
84: 323.7 lm, 779 mA, 231 minutes
85: 334.8 lm, 807 mA, 223 minutes
86: 345.8 lm, 836 mA, 215 minutes
87: 356.9 lm, 865 mA, 208 minutes
88: 368.0 lm, 894 mA, 201 minutes
89: 379.1 lm, 923 mA, 195 minutes
90: 393.9 lm, 961 mA, 187 minutes
91: 405.0 lm, 990 mA, 182 minutes
92: 416.1 lm, 1019 mA, 177 minutes
93: 430.9 lm, 1058 mA, 170 minutes
94: 442.0 lm, 1087 mA, 166 minutes
95: 456.7 lm, 1125 mA, 160 minutes
96: 471.5 lm, 1164 mA, 155 minutes
97: 482.6 lm, 1192 mA, 151 minutes
98: 497.4 lm, 1231 mA, 146 minutes
99: 512.2 lm, 1269 mA, 142 minutes
100: 527.0 lm, 1308 mA, 138 minutes
101: 541.8 lm, 1346 mA, 134 minutes
102: 556.6 lm, 1385 mA, 130 minutes
103: 571.4 lm, 1423 mA, 126 minutes
104: 586.1 lm, 1462 mA, 123 minutes
105: 604.6 lm, 1510 mA, 119 minutes
106: 619.4 lm, 1549 mA, 116 minutes
107: 637.9 lm, 1597 mA, 113 minutes
108: 652.7 lm, 1635 mA, 110 minutes
109: 671.2 lm, 1683 mA, 107 minutes
110: 686.0 lm, 1722 mA, 105 minutes
111: 704.4 lm, 1770 mA, 102 minutes
112: 722.9 lm, 1818 mA, 99 minutes
113: 741.4 lm, 1866 mA, 96 minutes
114: 759.9 lm, 1914 mA, 94 minutes
115: 778.4 lm, 1963 mA, 92 minutes
116: 796.9 lm, 2011 mA, 90 minutes
117: 819.0 lm, 2068 mA, 87 minutes
118: 837.5 lm, 2117 mA, 85 minutes
119: 856.0 lm, 2165 mA, 83 minutes
120: 878.2 lm, 2222 mA, 81 minutes
121: 900.4 lm, 2280 mA, 79 minutes
122: 918.9 lm, 2328 mA, 77 minutes
123: 941.0 lm, 2386 mA, 75 minutes
124: 963.2 lm, 2444 mA, 74 minutes
125: 985.4 lm, 2502 mA, 72 minutes
126: 1007.6 lm, 2559 mA, 70 minutes
127: 1029.8 lm, 2617 mA, 69 minutes
128: 1055.6 lm, 2684 mA, 67 minutes
129: 1077.8 lm, 2742 mA, 66 minutes
130: 1100.0 lm, 2800 mA, 64 minutes
131: 1157.9 lm, 3053 mA, 59 minutes
132: 1239.9 lm, 3451 mA, 52 minutes
133: 1329.4 lm, 3886 mA, 46 minutes
134: 1418.9 lm, 4320 mA, 42 minutes
135: 1508.4 lm, 4755 mA, 38 minutes
136: 1597.9 lm, 5190 mA, 35 minutes
137: 1687.4 lm, 5625 mA, 32 minutes
138: 1776.9 lm, 6059 mA, 30 minutes
139: 1873.9 lm, 6530 mA, 28 minutes
140: 1970.8 lm, 7001 mA, 26 minutes
141: 2067.8 lm, 7472 mA, 24 minutes
142: 2164.7 lm, 7943 mA, 23 minutes
143: 2269.1 lm, 8450 mA, 21 minutes
144: 2366.1 lm, 8921 mA, 20 minutes
145: 2470.5 lm, 9428 mA, 19 minutes
146: 2574.9 lm, 9935 mA, 18 minutes
147: 2679.3 lm, 10442 mA, 17 minutes
148: 2783.7 lm, 10949 mA, 16 minutes
149: 2888.1 lm, 11457 mA, 16 minutes
150: 3000.0 lm, 12000 mA, 15 minutes
```

C and D would be the most practical imo.

I’m using the latest Anduril on my 11,000 + lumen Q8 and I LOVE it!

Blinks at the default positions works well for me, the 4 SST40’s can go VERY low on the ramp floor (too low!) and the candle light fix is superb! I find the lowest setting on candle to be the most realistic with my diffuser in place (and some tint correction via Lee filter to bring the SST40’s in line)

Ramping is ultra smooth and quick enough to not be a drag, still easy enough to select a desired level of output.

If one has memory issue to the point of not being able to use firmware like this, I’d venture to say use of Li-ion cell powered lights should be discontinued… my memory is as fallible as most anyone’s and even I can set this up and use it without much trouble. (some of the lesser used features give me problems at times, but of course that’s what the UI diagram is for)

Love it TK, thank you SO much! :heart_eyes:

That table! Wow! Afraid my lights might exceed the maximum current draws by a wee bit…