Gearbest offering partial refund after failed delivery

tatasal · 2018-09-05T07:40:59.000Z

gismop:

I’ve tried contacting DHL but they told me the following:

“In case your parcel does not arrive within the regular delivery time, please contact the sender in Germany to arrange an investigation.”
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Who do they mean ‘the sender in Germany’ ?

duramax · 2018-09-05T07:46:39.000Z

Have you checked with your local customs office? 2 months is slow, but not unheard of. Given the backlog from the summer holidays they might still be working on this? While customs is transacting the shipment there is typically no tracking information or only limited information.

Did customs sent you the letter asking for more information (purchase price, invoice, origin/details of content, …)?

tatasal · 2018-09-05T07:56:25.000Z

duramax:

Have you checked with your local customs office? 2 months is slow, but not unheard of. Given the backlog from the summer holidays they might still be working on this? While customs is transacting the shipment there is typically no tracking information or only limited information.

Did customs sent you the letter asking for more information (purchase price, invoice, origin/details of content, …)?

Yeah, the DHL package movement history from the day DHL received it in China should give you the information until the time there was no longer updates and got stuck somewhere.

DHL’s tracking history is so complete usually, though in my experience, once taxes in the receiving country are levied, it plays a delaying role, the tracking will show “pending” or something similar.

I find it surprising that DHL will point the package back to the sender when in fact it was received by them.

duramax · 2018-09-05T07:59:33.000Z

Customs have a separate tracking system that is run by them, they won’t necessarily feedback things to DHL, Gearbest or you.
If you haven’t received the customs letter, any other information from them or an invoice with sales tax and/or customs fees you should contact them and let them know you are the importer of these goods (because that is who you are). You can only claim a lost shipment if really nobody has it. DHL tracking only “works” until customs get hold of the package, from there on it will be tracked in a different way.

gismop · 2018-09-05T08:04:00.000Z

I have not checked with local customs yet. Thank you for the tip.

Will keep you posted.

tatasal · 2018-09-05T08:15:28.000Z

duramax:

Customs have a separate tracking system that is run by them, they won’t necessarily feedback things to DHL, Gearbest or you.
If you haven’t received the customs letter, any other information from them or an invoice with sales tax and/or customs fees you should contact them and let them know you are the importer of these goods (because that is who you are). You can only claim a lost shipment if really nobody has it. DHL tracking only “works” until customs get hold of the package, from there on it will be tracked in a different way.

This is why that providing an email address and/or a phone number in the consignee’s address is best because DHL can contact you there in case customs duties are imposed on the incoming package, depending on the declared value ceiling on the receiving country. I always include my email address, like in my country where the declared value ceiling is USD $100, so DHL (or any courier) for that matter can contact me when problem arises.

gismop · 2018-09-05T08:16:32.000Z

I just contacted customs but no luck. They say they have no means of tracking it using a DHL tracking number.

According to the tracking information it has never left Germany, hence DHL originally said the package may have been lost.

Detailed tracking history

Fr, 13.07.2018 07:47 Feucht, Germany
The shipment will be transported to the destination country and, from there, handed over to the delivery organization.
Fr, 13.07.2018 04:09 Feucht, Germany
The international shipment has been processed in the export parcel center
Do, 12.07.2018 01:35 Regensburg, Germany
The international shipment has been processed in the parcel center of origin
Do, 12.07.2018 01:33 Regensburg, Germany
The shipment has been processed in the parcel center
Do, 12.07.2018 01:20 Regensburg, Germany
The shipment has been processed in the parcel center
Di, 03.07.2018 19:06 —
The instruction data for this shipment have been provided by the sender to DHL electronically

duramax · 2018-09-05T08:21:55.000Z

I would file a lost package claim them, both sender or recipient can do that with DHL. It looks like the package has been misplaced somewhere and people should start looking for it. While it is rare a package gets completely “lost” it is something that can happen.

tatasal · 2018-09-05T08:25:29.000Z

gismop:

I just contacted customs but no luck. They say they have no means of tracking it using a DHL tracking number.

According to the tracking information it has never left Germany, hence DHL originally said the package may have been lost.

Detailed tracking history

Fr, 13.07.2018 07:47 Feucht, Germany
The shipment will be transported to the destination country and, from there, handed over to the delivery organization.
Fr, 13.07.2018 04:09 Feucht, Germany
The international shipment has been processed in the export parcel center
Do, 12.07.2018 01:35 Regensburg, Germany
The international shipment has been processed in the parcel center of origin
Do, 12.07.2018 01:33 Regensburg, Germany
The shipment has been processed in the parcel center
Do, 12.07.2018 01:20 Regensburg, Germany
The shipment has been processed in the parcel center
Di, 03.07.2018 19:06 —
The instruction data for this shipment have been provided by the sender to DHL electronically

It’s usually the shipper (DHL) responsibility and job to contact consignee for any customs levy, as they are the courier that transacts with the receiving government’s Customs office on all incoming, taxable goods.

Yes, do not expect the local Customs office to make use of DHL’s tracking information, they are just there to monitor all incoming packages, taxable or not.

I find it very surprising for DHL to just wash their hands off this package. Perhaps a message to their CEO is necessary?

MRsDNF · 2018-09-05T08:36:09.000Z

Why is it that people that have issues with Chinese shipping that have nothing to do with flashlights join a flashlight forum to tell us all about it?

duramax · 2018-09-05T08:54:15.000Z

Google searches might lead them to BLF. We have a fair number of posts regarding shipping issues with BG, GB, …

Joss · 2018-09-05T09:01:07.000Z

MRsDNF:

Why is it that people that have issues with Chinese shipping that have nothing to do with flashlights join a flashlight forum to tell us all about it?

That’s the first thing that came to my mind as well.

gismop · 2018-09-05T09:08:54.000Z

duramax:

Google searches might lead them to BLF. We have a fair number of posts regarding shipping issues with BG, GB, …

that’s the reason actually… I just hoped that since you guys deal with these shops all the time you could point me to the right direction.

Jerommel · 2018-09-05T09:22:47.000Z

Open a Paypal dispute?

Barkuti · 2018-09-05T13:29:26.000Z

One of my last shipments from GearBest, months ago, was a small purchase consisting of two different pliers. Paid €5.75 + €0.99 of shipping via “Spain Priority Mail”. However, the shipment didn't come by mail. I received two or three email messages from GearBest with “Salva you have received a message from gearbest!” on the subject and “Salva, Please Collect Your Gearbest Package!” inside. I dismissed those emails, believing that was some sort of advertising bait stuff. Weeks later I checked the order status in My Account -> My Orders in GearBest, noticing it had been returned.

Filed PayPal dispute. Seller said that “due to shipping option bla bla bla” they could only refund the package cost (€5.75). I said mmmkay, but their representative was a offering a lower amount (in USD). I told him I wanted my $6.7+, he/she agreed. However, a few days later I woke up in the morning and felt something was wrong. It was the last day of the period for my PayPal dispute to resolve, and I noticed the @#$% had refunded me €4.72 out of €5.75. Wrong! Elevated dispute to claim, waited for resolution, got my full remaining €2.02. PayPal understood these fellows acted up, which is no surprise. Got my full refund because justice, as I explained the seller that if they were using a different shipping method which requires me to go collect something somewhere…

Cheers

P.S.: is GearBest crooking up?

mortuus · 2018-09-05T16:21:34.000Z

do a paypal claim, package never reached u they should cover full money…

also i would never buy an expensive phone from such sites as gearbest, banggood etc… at most a cheap 100$ backup phone but not more.

Agro · 2018-09-05T16:25:38.000Z

I have the same problem right now. Though with a trivial amount. I can lose that and I don’t really care to fight, but the distaste remains.

MRsDNF · 2018-09-05T19:51:50.000Z

gismop:

duramax:

Google searches might lead them to BLF. We have a fair number of posts regarding shipping issues with BG, GB, …

that’s the reason actually… I just hoped that since you guys deal with these shops all the time you could point me to the right direction.

So we blame Google for non flashaholics bringing there issues here?

Barkuti · 2018-09-05T20:25:20.000Z

I think it's better to avoid the blame. Someone asks for help and those who willingly want to help do help. Those who think otherwise better move on.

Just a wise opinion.

Cheers ^:)

MRsDNF · 2018-09-05T20:34:05.000Z

So who is next in line to bring there problems here?