So what about this then
How can you charge the raw battery inside the flashlight I thought you canât charge it because thereâs no guaranteed protection matched to that specific raw battery during charging.
The flashlightâs charging circuit is tuned for its specific battery, and a raw cell has no built-in protection (no BMS) â so using a random raw battery means thereâs no guaranteed cutoff or safety if something goes wrong during charging.
I came up with a much better insulator. Instead of the bottle cap from Walgreens that measured 1.4 mm in thickness, I used a piece of plastic that was used to store razors. It is 0.3 mm.
It makes a difference. When I tighten the light it doesnât put as much pressure on the driver. Basically the Walgreens cap was almost five times thicker.
The picture ama sent he was using the same product I was telling you to use. The reason I showed you the eight dollar product is because thatâs the same exact product. Itâs just cheaper on AliExpress so you can buy the same product for more money if that makes you more comfortable. Here is another product that you can use and you can charge the whole battery in 1 to 2 hours.
Hereâs a more expensive product but its similar to the one I showed you on AliExpress
Ok. Thx.
First I have to decide if Iâm keeping the light. The cheaper one that you sent ($22) me is only $4 more from Walmart when shipped than AliExpress. And obviously get it much quicker.
So if I choose to get the one from Walmart thatâs the same as the one from aliexpress, do I have to have the insulator on the bottom of the battery when I charge it? Or just when I used that Eva battery in my flashlight?
For me this is confusing because you get people giving conflicting information and I donât know what the correct information is! Things that I excel at I wouldnât have a problem making a decision on whatâs right or what is misinformation.
What are you talking about regarding a specific battery? Please stop. That flashlight can charge any 46950 cell you buy. The battery rebranded by Lumintop is probably the same as the Liitokala and the Eve, so please stop confusing everyone and do your research before posting incorrect information.
And letâs also understand that it doesnât need an external charger to charge the battery, but if you do decide to use one, the one youâre showing isnât the best option. Thatâs what smart chargers like IMAX, ISDT, etc., are for.
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Honestly, you donât know what youâre talking about. That power bank can charge at 32A to fully charge in one hour, or at 16A to fully charge in two hours? Please stop saying nonsense.
I have an ISDT Q8 with a 600-watt power supply, and the maximum it can deliver is 20A. Now youâre trying to charge it at 32A with your âŹ8 power bank? Good grief.
Buddy you need to atleast do the minimum and type things relating to batteries into google before you start giving bad information. Thatâs how fires get started when people think you know what your talking about.
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Iâm not seeing where heâs giving bad advice. You on the other hand are off the mark on things.
For example:
Batteries arenât tuned to a specific battery. Properly designed chargers follow a CC-CV curve when charging a battery, regardless of the make, brand, etc of the battery (or even if itâs the right chemistry). If a battery fits in the flashlight then it will charge it. How do you suppose that a 21700 flashlight can charge a 18650 battery even though itâs not the âspecific batteryâ, whatever that means?
Youâre basically stating that flashlights with on-board charging canât use similarly sized batteries from other vendors; which is categorically incorrect.
If youâre saying that charging raw batteries (do you mean unprotected?) is unsafe then you should realize that flashlights with chargers will stop charging when appropriate (although to be fair some can overcharge the battery).
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This is your biggest problem next to relying on the info artificial intelligence is spitting out for you and taking it for granted. You have zero clues whatsoever how things work and youâre giving advice to people that obviously know what theyâre talking about. You also create confusion between those that are not sure of some things but have basic knowledge covered.
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Well said.
I have basic knowledge and thatâs it so I depend on people who know more than me to give me information that is correct.
Yet, in this case itâs littered with contradiction and it conflicts with what the facts are. And thereâs people on here that know the facts, thatâs why I ask questions, because I donât know all the facts about batteries and electronics.
I thought of the exact same thing you did. He mentioned google. We canât depend on AI for 100% accurate information , if we did we would be in big trouble.
My gifts are in other areas. One thing I do not do at this stage of life is to pretend or blurt out information when I donât know that it is 100% factual. I ask for help. Which is not a weakness. Itâs actually a sign of humility.
Finally, with life comes experience. Iâll be 66 in 2 months. So something like this could have happened to me when I was in my twenties, thinking I knew everything. I donât. And I learned to put my ego in check.
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How do you know the information you receive is correct or incorrect?
How can you possibly know what facts are contradicting or conflicting when the information you receive hasnât been confirmed as accurate?
Curiously, what gifts and in what areas?
Just pulled the trigger on the Lumintop Rainbow V2.0, so that I at least have something to use my four 46950 cells in. It was on sale for $86 shipped, and that includes yet another 46950 cell.
This will be used 100% in lantern mode with the shade on. Since we lose power somewhat frequently out here in the country, and it can be for days at a time, lanterns are always useful. Maybe a future flashlight that appeals to me will use 46950s too. Time will tell.
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Thank you for saying this outright!
There is so much false/incorrect information posted in this topic since my last posts here in this topic, that I really hope that other members that read this topic donât get confused and pick up some of the things stated here as (factually) correct and walk away with incorrect information.
There are already so many other topics on unprotected batteries (including 46800/46950) and flashlights here on this forum that do have all the correct information in them, that it would be a shame if someone would only pick up on the (wrong) information in this topic.
@Ama75 thank you for also taking the time to respond and correcting wrong statements/information!
Iâm itching to also respond/pick apart all the wrong statements/assumptions posted over the past 4 days and motivate what is wrong/incorrect, but I will refrain from that, because a lot of things have already been discussed/corrected.
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SigShooter took the time through personal message and explained stuff to me so I understood what and what not to do with my battery. 
It was very helpful. Prior to that there was nothing but confusion because I didnât know who to believe. Conflicting and contradictory information.
But I know I believe him because heâs one of the people on here with a lot of experience I remember him when I used to be a lurker here years ago.
Wingman also gave me information on 46 950 batteries that I didnât know about. On where to purchase others.
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One of the great things about modern technology is that itâs possible to get a lot of information on things very quickly. One of the bad things about modern technology is that itâs possible to get a lot of misinformation on things very quickly.
Both can sound equally credible (lots of bogus Youtube channels that seemingly provide correct info exists), so cross-checking what one reads is more important than ever.
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If youâre now certain that the information you have most recently received through private messages is accurate, donât you think it would be helpful to everyone with concerns about these 46950 Lithium Ion cells, for you to share what youâve learned? Otherwise, potentially dangerous misinformation remains! 
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