Group Buy: Wuben TO50R HC ("The Flashlight") - 90+CRI, 2500+lm, EDC - CLOSED!

BurningPlayd0h · 2019-05-07T04:08:33.000Z

Got mine, everything seems solidly built so far, beam is very floody (similar to my 219B PL47 using the same optics + diffusion film) but the tint is already pretty good… whether I slice and dice these emitters is going to be a tough call. I’ll probably get some real-world use and wait for my FW3A before I decide either way.

UI is excellent and its going to be hard to go back to most single side switch UIs except the Narsil/Anduril family. Not as many shortcuts as a ZL but you can actually get to a particular mode faster in some cases and the momentary turbo is really great.

Modes are well spaced, I thought the turbo and high would be too close in perceived brighteness but there’s a big enough difference (and obviously much less heat and drain on high despite them being fairly close).

The buttons are damn near silent and feel good. Moving your thumb or finger between them is very natural since they’re vertically positioned (unlike Eagtac where they’re side by side).

USB cover seats well and isn’t a pain to get out.

Edit: Something weird happening with the UI. If I hold “W” to go to momentary turbo from high, it returns me to low instead, and then when I cycle through the modes I have only 3 of them with high missing from the rotation. No button combo or navigation through the UI seems to get it back, although a quick on/off cycle returns the modes to normal. Holding power to go to turbo from high and then attempting to return to the previous level does the same thing.

Edit 2: Doing a full power cycle seems to have stopped the issue but I’ve taken the battery out at least once between the first time it occurred and the latest so I’m a little puzzled.

Edit 3: I broke out the knife. Its now as throwy as 219Bs in the PL47 with stock optics. Only took ~1/2 the dome off and the color temp didn’t change that much. Still a bit cooler than the 4500K SC600 I have.

gottobegeek · 2019-05-07T17:00:56.000Z

Just got mine today.
I dont suppose you have beam shots comparing before and after slicing
Or could you just post a pic or two of nighttime distance shots so I can sort of compare my stock version to your throwy version?

ty

BurningPlayd0h · 2019-05-07T17:12:03.000Z

gottobegeek:

Just got mine today.
I dont suppose you have beam shots comparing before and after slicing
Or could you just post a pic or two of nighttime distance shots so I can sort of compare my stock version to your throwy version?

ty

I can get some wall shots and compare against the 219B PL47 (same optics) with and without DC Fix for sure.

contactcr · 2019-05-07T17:18:17.000Z

gottobegeek:

Just got mine today.
I dont suppose you have beam shots comparing before and after slicing
Or could you just post a pic or two of nighttime distance shots so I can sort of compare my stock version to your throwy version?

ty

Being lightly frosted with a regulated driver it’s probably not a huge benefit to slice this one unless you just don’t like the existing beam.

With a FET you can still bump up the output to compensate for the lost lumens (assuming you aren’t comparing turbo to turbo). Being frosted will diminish some of the throw from the slice. The better play may be to replace two of the LEDs with 3000K emitters if you want to change tint.

CoolJB · 2019-05-08T16:25:14.000Z

Got mine yesterday. Haven’t done much but power it up for a minute. Nice beam, color and pattern. I’m perplexed by the omission of a glass lens over the TIR optic though. Never seen a light with the bare TIR optic exposed like this. I’m always careful with my lights anyway, but this is a little puzzling that they would leave the relatively fragile plastic exposed like this. Still seems like a nice light other than that. Magnet is very strong and great clip. For what we paid for it I have no complaints though.

BurningPlayd0h · 2019-05-09T01:13:56.000Z

Will try and get some beamshots tonight, just white walls still unless the weather clears up.

UI is still randomly weird. Seems to happen more when the included battery gets low-ish in charge, and haven’t noticed the issue yet with my other unprotected 18650s and 20700s but I tried them very briefly in this light.

Some more observations:
-Knurling is slippery and poorly designed. Straight horizontal cuts at the same depth would have been way more effective (it would be harder for your hand to slide forward and back over the light) or literally any of the other knurling patterns I’ve felt on any light/tool/gun.

-Pocket clip is beefy and carries very deep. Really like it, even if it being so long makes it super noticeable on pants that aren’t also black. The light is big enough where that’s not really an issue though IMO.

-Magnet is definitely strong. Haven’t taken the tail retaining ring out to see how easy it is to remove but I think it would be, and that’s a huge plus over lights that have magnets which can’t be removed.

gottobegeek · 2019-05-09T03:30:00.000Z

I am really liking this lite.
I too wonder why there is no glass lens, did we all miss this omission in the when buying, or just assumed?

Anyway, I like the UI, except for some getting used to and echo the comments of BurningPlayd0h which I noticed also, but maybe just getting use to?

The tail Magnet is the strongest I have seen in any similar light so far which is great, but respect it or you might end up with a drag scratch.

The packaging is nice and professional and although I have not tried out the carry pouch it looks quality constructed and sturdy nylon.

Although it is plenty bright, I would have preferred the throw to be a bit longer for my preference, but it seems accurate to claims of 140m distance.
(for some years now, the Olight S80 baton has been a favorite of mine in this size catagory and I am forced to compare all other lights to which has a 250m range)

BurningPlayd0h · 2019-05-09T04:58:25.000Z

gottobegeek:

I am really liking this lite.
I too wonder why there is no glass lens, did we all miss this omission in the when buying, or just assumed?

I’ve followed this light pretty closely and I’ve never seen anyone ask, we all just assumed that was standard practice I guess

Anyway, I like the UI, except for some getting used to and echo the comments of BurningPlayd0h which I noticed also, but maybe just getting use to?

If you’re having the same issues with turbo reverting to different modes/missing modes its definitely not something listed in the manual or the UI chart in this thread. Seems very inconsistent too. As long as I’ve kept the light pretty charged I haven’t run into it again though. Maybe some weird side effect of using a boost driver?

Unloco · 2019-05-09T12:02:54.000Z

Can we put a glass lens or is it glued?

contactcr · 2019-05-09T13:26:09.000Z

It is not glued but there is no room for it

Unloco · 2019-05-09T17:26:09.000Z

Thanks.

northbeard · 2019-05-09T23:07:40.000Z

Just received my light today - build quality is definitely very good with a solid feel to the light. The knurling does feel a bit slippery to the fingertips, but between the knurling and the belt clip the grip ‘in hand’ is actually very good. Charging worked well with a randomly-chosen Micro USB cable rather than the included one. I’ll have to try the power bank feature later; including the multi-use cable is a nice touch.

The optic does seem to have the two broken off legs, but absolutely doesn’t interfere with operation. I will have to make some time to take this light out with me in the next evening or two to get a good sense of how it throws, but the beam seems very smooth against nuetral-coloured walls in a two-minute cycle through the modes.

The afterglow of the phosphor caught me by surprise, but as soon as I saw it I recalled a note from someone else on the thread that it was very noticeable. Not a problem at all, just a ‘thing’ with this light. The TO46R doesn’t do this, but it’s different emitters.

No issues with delivery to Western Canada, but it was slow to get here - almost a month from notice of delivery from Jason at Wuben.

BurningPlayd0h · 2019-05-09T23:46:08.000Z

Some white wall beamshots here: Comparison white wall shots of shaved LH351D 5000K in Wuben TO50R

Sliced TO50R compared to 219B PL47 and SC600HI

derfyled · 2019-07-10T17:09:04.000Z

Finally received!

Canada Post are very good for showing bad tracking information and getting me worried.

First impressions

- Excellent quality. This is my first Wuben and I’ll admit I was not expecting that quality machining. Pleasantly surprised.

- First LH351D light. What a fantastic tint and color rendition. I think I prefer it to 219B

- Light gets very hot if left untouched on high (not turbo) for a couple of minutes. This is kind of worrying. I think it should step-down because it was to a point where it was uncomfortable to pick-up and hold

- The TO50R is heavy. Quite heavy. Weight and size makes it not too EDC friendly. It’s not a GT but still, not my first choice for EDC. It’s more a backpack light than a pocket light.

- Beam is absolutely perfect, a massive flood, no hotspot at all. Beam is similar to a D4 with Nichia. If I had to choose, I think I would prefer a narrower beam to gain a bit of throw

- UI is good. I have a personal preference on single button UI but it’s still very easy and intuitive to use

- My level button is hard to push. After a couple of seconds on the momentary turbo, my tired finger tends to release the switch

Power bank function is a great feature for emergencies
-The clip is what all clips should be

So far, very satisfied with it.

If I had one feature I could add, I would have liked the possibility to have the light switch always on to use as a bedside flashlight locator.

contactcr · 2019-05-11T23:59:27.000Z

contactcr:

CCT taken at “High”

CCT = 4816K (Duv 0.0040)

Color Rendering Index (Ra) = 90.1 [ R9 = 52.4 ]
R1 = 89.7 R2 = 91.2 R3 = 92.9 R4 = 91.5 R5 = 89.7 R6 = 88.4 R7 = 93.6
R8 = 83.8 R9 = 52.4 R10 = 80.1 R11 = 92.0 R12 = 71.8 R13 = 89.8 R14 = 96.7

Yxy: 2294.589942 0.351585 0.364922

Moon: 0.57lm
Micro: 14lm
Low: 56lm
Mid: 272lm
High: 1333lm
Turbo: ~2680lm at 30s

Tail standing for like ~8-10 minutes on turbo got about 930lm

I swapped in 2x 3000K 90CRI so now it has 3000K+5000K

Moon: 0.5lm
Micro: 13lm
Low: 51lm
Mid: 247lm
High: 1212lm

CCT taken at High:

CCT = 3887K (Duv 0.0010)

Color Rendering Index (Ra) = 92.7 [ R9 = 68.5 ]
R1 = 93.3 R2 = 93.7 R3 = 93.3 R4 = 93.7 R5 = 93.0 R6 = 91.5 R7 = 94.4
R8 = 88.4 R9 = 68.5 R10 = 85.2 R11 = 94.6 R12 = 79.2 R13 = 93.1 R14 = 96.4

Yxy: 2088.710557 0.386335 0.382505

Thrust84 · 2019-05-18T02:51:25.000Z

I am interesting as well. Depends on price. Could you please PM me the price?

Edit: Just realized I might be too late!

d_t_a · 2019-05-25T07:49:12.000Z

Got the Wuben TO50R-HC I ordered. Thanks _the_ for organizing group buy for this flashlight!

Comparing the Wuben TO46R (3x XP-G3 90CRI 5000K), which was also organized by _the_, vs the new Wuben TO50R-HC (4x LH351D 5000K 90CRI).

In the video, the TO50R beam looks a tinge of yellowish, but in actual, the beam looks a beautiful neutral-white (at least when at night).

The TO50R has a noticeably smoother and wider beam.

(left beam with smaller hotspot is the TO46R, the slightly-yellowish beam on the right with wider hotspot is the TO50R)

adam7027 · 2019-05-25T21:45:51.000Z

This is even floodier, than a Haikelite SC02

Anthon · 2019-05-25T22:23:52.000Z

As this light uses a boost driver and the leds are in series

Can I swap the leds with 4 XHP35 HI in parallel?

contactcr · 2019-05-26T01:06:39.000Z

Anthon:

As this light uses a boost driver and the leds are in series

Can I swap the leds with 4 XHP35 HI in parallel?

You could if they used a typical quad mcpcb but they did not. The current would be pretty low anyways for as much as 4 xhp35s cost