Group Buy: Wuben TO50R HC ("The Flashlight") - 90+CRI, 2500+lm, EDC - CLOSED!

MtnDon · 2019-02-28T02:29:13.000Z

“GB rules:

GB price is (significantly) under MSRP and needs to be kept secret => PM me for pricing

Not me, but =the= as he mentioned in post #1

Lyyyyghtey · 2019-02-28T23:57:19.000Z

Do we know yet whether the bezel threads will be locked? I’d like to know I had the option of possibly swapping emitters or optic in future without a major struggle…

BurningPlayd0h · 2019-03-01T01:43:48.000Z

Lyyyyghtey:

Do we know yet whether the bezel threads will be locked? I’d like to know I had the option of possibly swapping emitters or optic in future without a major struggle…

In the previous thread it was stated pretty strongly that nothing would be glued or otherwise sealed. No press-fit bezel either, threaded for sure.

Lyyyyghtey · 2019-03-01T08:54:28.000Z

Thank you! I’m in then.

blakjack23 · 2019-03-01T21:16:59.000Z

Interested. Send pricing please.

keithober · 2019-03-06T15:21:27.000Z

the was nice enough to weigh it for us, reports 201g with the battery.

casi29061965 · 2019-03-12T17:31:05.000Z

Interested, depending on price.

M4D_M4X · 2019-03-12T19:31:05.000Z

I played with the TO50R this weekend and I really enjoyed it!

_the · 2019-03-12T20:14:01.000Z

M4D M4X:

I played with the TO50R this weekend and I really enjoyed it!

Glad to hear that you appreciate this great light!

Did you go to IWA Outdoor Classics and met Jason there?

ZozzV6 · 2019-03-12T21:01:50.000Z

It was truly an amazing light! I also there and the only thing we mentioned as an improvement is the long click lockout maybe will be better to replace with 3 or 4 clicks. I can’t complain on anything else.

LarryLumens · 2019-03-12T21:14:25.000Z

Interested, depending on price.

_the · 2019-03-12T21:51:43.000Z

ZozzV6:

It was truly an amazing light! I also there and the only thing we mentioned as an improvement is the long click lockout maybe will be better to replace with 3 or 4 clicks. I can’t complain on anything else.

Thanks! Feels really good to hear those words after so much time put into this project!

The multi-click lockout was (and still is) out of the question because I want that the light acts like specified also when clicking quickly - no matter how many times you do it…
On/off-switch: Each click will turn the light on or off, even if you would do that 10 times in a row => suitable for signaling.
Mode switch: Each click will advance one mode. Again, no matter how fast or how many times you do it => robust change of modes.

ZozzV6 · 2019-03-12T22:04:02.000Z

*the*:

The multi-click lockout was (and still is) out of the question because I want that the light acts like specified also when clicking quickly - no matter how many times you do it…
On/off-switch: Each click will turn the light on or off, even if you would do that 10 times in a row => suitable for signaling.
Mode switch: Each click will advance one mode. Again, no matter how fast or how many times you do it => robust change of modes.

That is ok but one of my friend has a long click unlok method light in his backpack in the back of his car. And he rided on the highway and smelled strange and when he looked back he saw smoke in the car. The flashlight unlocked itself and went to turbo. He has to move fast to brake and stop and then pack out of the car. Luckily only his backpack melted and no fire. This little light with it’s TIR optic and high power is also can melt things. I think if you can enter lockout with 3 clicks and enter a signaling mode with 4 clicks and exit signaling with disconnecting battery it is a usable thing. But safety is a must have with high power flashlights.
Or if you have a long click for unlock it will be also good if you hold the button for unlock and after a few seconds the led or switch lighting blinks and right that time you need to make a short click with the mode button too. If the short click is too long or doesn’t happen the light stays locked.

_the · 2019-03-12T22:13:46.000Z

ZozzV6:

*the*:

The multi-click lockout was (and still is) out of the question because I want that the light acts like specified also when clicking quickly - no matter how many times you do it…
On/off-switch: Each click will turn the light on or off, even if you would do that 10 times in a row => suitable for signaling.
Mode switch: Each click will advance one mode. Again, no matter how fast or how many times you do it => robust change of modes.

That is ok but one of my friend has a long click unlok method light in his backpack in the back of his car. And he rided on the highway and smelled strange and when he looked back he saw smoke in the car. The flashlight unlocked itself and went to turbo. He has to move fast to brake and stop and then pack out of the car. Luckily only his backpack melted and no fire. This little light with it’s TIR optic and high power is also can melt things. I think if you can enter lockout with 3 clicks and enter a signaling mode with 4 clicks and exit signaling with disconnecting battery it is a usable thing. But safety is a must have with high power flashlights.
Or if you have a long click for unlock it will be also good if you hold the button for unlock and after a few seconds the led or switch lighting blinks and right that time you need to make a short click with the mode button too. If the short click is too long or doesn’t happen the light stays locked.

Your story highlights the fact that a soft lock won’t ever be 100% reliable, which is why I always use hard lock (unscrew the tail cap for half a turn) when putting the light to backpack. I also require that from all of my lights, including this.

ZozzV6 · 2019-03-12T22:19:40.000Z

*the*:

Your story highlights the fact that a soft lock won’t ever be 100% reliable, which is why I always use hard lock (unscrew the tail cap for half a turn) when putting the light to backpack. I also require that from all of my lights, including this.

Yes. But then no need for soft lock if you should hard lock every time. If I put it on a table I don’t use any lock. Lock is only for putting in pocket or backpack. I don’t want to argue with you. I just want out the best possibble out of this almost perfect flashlight. The almost is just depends on a little better and safer soft lock in this. Every other thing is good as it is.

BlueSwordM · 2019-03-12T22:53:19.000Z

Wait, have the lights already shipped?

ZozzV6 · 2019-03-12T22:55:12.000Z

Nope. I was at Germany on IWA outdoor classic and tried it there at Wuben’s booth.

mihlit · 2019-03-12T23:23:33.000Z

Yeah, I have to agree with ZozzV6, as I’ve already burned a hole in my trousers twice with flashlight in a pocket that was soft locked and required a long push to unlock. (I dont even count situations when I found it with empty/almost empty battery). After that I stopped carrying such flashlights. Three or four fast clicks is much less likely to happen accidentally. I always carry my flashlights soft locked (those that use safe locking). I don’t carry lights that have to be hard locked for reliable locking as I want to be able to lock/unlock it reliably with one hand.

Lyyyyghtey · 2019-03-13T05:53:14.000Z

I’ve carried a light with neither soft nor hard lock and been negatively surprised by a dead battery and a very warm light (luckily it wasn’t a high enough power light to do damage). So now I require all my EDC lights to have hard lockout. I rarely use soft because I find it too fiddly (although I see the point regarding one handed operation). So soft lockout won’t affect my interest in this light. I think a soft lock involving a single long push might be too easy to activate/deactivate accidentally, but I can see wanting to not have multiple clicks doing something other than turning the light off and on repeatedly for signaling. It seems a combination of a long followed quickly by several short clicks could work, but that would be even more fiddly. Hmm…

Agro · 2019-03-13T08:26:36.000Z

Looks like some are copying Wuben style already:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Mini-LED-Flashlight-4000LM-Q5-LED-Flashlight-3mode-Torch-Adjustable-Zoom-Focus-Lamp-Penlight-Waterproof-For/32975218019.html