Have you seen this 3 x XHP70 soda can light before? (similar to Haikelite MT03)

2100 · 2018-09-29T09:08:46.000Z

Hi guys!

After a break of about 5 years, i am getting back into the hobby again!

Found the BLF Q8 and ordered one. Got it at usd 37 shipped, can’t be beaten value with 5000+ lumens and capable of hitting 6000 with spring bypass, good batts? 50k cd, neutral white? Sign me up! I saw the Sofirn BLF Q8 with XP-L HI (100k cd) and it is a really tough call, in the end i still prefer the original one with neutral white.

Ok I came across this puppy. RMB 358 (usd 52). Not exactly the same design as the Haikelite MT03 but quite similar.

Not sure about the driver used. Hence would be unable to confirm the performance.

Any thoughts or anybody can share any info? I wonder if it is capable of around 9000 lumens.

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.244.7c2b3ee0vwN0yc&id=57…

I’ll translate the claimed specs
Dimensions：Head diameter 66mm Body tube 50mm Tail diameter 53mm Length135mm
Weight : 465g
55 deg C for the thermal regulation point

Sillen · 2018-09-29T13:01:05.000Z

I’ve got this on order. Ordered Sept 16, shipped Sept 26, still in China according to tracking so a few weeks away. Same light from a few different AE listings
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Super-bright-flashlight-xhp70-Photography-video-fill-light-flashlight-18650-battery-3-led-flash-light-waterproof/32908648186.html?spm=2114.10010108.1000015.4.434d2ba7K7oepY&s=p
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/xhp70-Photography-video-fill-light-flashlight-18650-battery-Super-bright-flashlight-3-led-flash-light-waterproof/32908200131.html?spm=2114.10010108.1000015.20.434d2ba7K7oepY&s=p

Product parameters:
Emitter:7070
Aluminum Alloy body with HAIII Anodize black surface Finish
Battery: 4x High Drain >10A button top 18650
Switch: Side electrical switch with big Transparent rubber boot
Aluminium OP Reflector
Ultra Clear Double-sided AR coated Glass lens (99% Light transmision )
Double O rings; IPX8 Waterproof
With standard Tripod hole
Max Brightness:13000 LumensNW ;
Max Runtime: 58 days
Brightness Level: (Digital current regulation)
Low Low: 10 Lumens (28 days )
Low: 150 Lumens (35 hrs to 10% power)
Middle: 1000 Lumens ; (480 minutes to 10% power)
High: 2700 Lumens (250 minutes to 10% power)
Hidden moonlight: 0.6 Lumens ; 58 days
Turbo—13000lumens —–2.5 minutes (thermal control) step down to
6000 Lumens—–2 minutes (thermal control) step down again to 2400
Lumens (300 minutes to 10% power)
Overclocked descent55 degrees 2.4 A-2.6A
6000 Lumens55 degrees 1.4A-1.6A
Timed Temperature stepdown and thermal regulation
Size: 135mm length x65mm Head x53mm body
Weight：460 Gram

User Interface:Single Click-on ; Single Click-off
Hidden Moonlight (press and hold switch in off status; easy to access)
Low Low-Low-Mid -High-turbo (Long press to change
modes ; with last mode memory)
Quick access to Turbo (Double click after you turn
on the light) ; Turbo can be memorized.
Click+hold+flash signal to lockout the light;
loose the flashlight body to unlock.
Switch LED indicator:
100~50 power: Blue LED on
50~9 power: Blue LED flash twice every 2 seconds
Blow 9% power: The flashlight will flash fast and step-down to moonlight.
The indicator LED will be off on Moonlight mode to extend the run time.
Internal parts:
40mm Haike Copper DTP Emitter board
20 gauge thick copper+silver wires
5mm thick internal integrated emitter shelf
double silver-plating copper-alloy springs
Caution:
The Turbo mode gets hot very quick!!!
So do use this light in right way!!! Turbo mode is never a daily-use mode.
Low-mid-High modes are bright enough for daily use
Keep the light away from Children!!!

Tally-ho · 2018-09-29T13:54:05.000Z

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Look what I found on AliExpress http://s.aliexpress.com/n6viEvQv I found this flashlight on AliExpress that is 3 XHP-70, I’ve talked with them and this is what they sent me about specifications. —-Emitter:7070 v —Aluminum Alloy body with HAIII Anodize black surface Finish v —Battery: 4x High Drain >10A button top 18650 v —Switch: Side electrical switch with big Transparent rubber boot v —Aluminium OP Reflector v Ultra Clear Double-sided AR coated Glass lens (99% Light transmision ) v —Do…

Neal · 2018-09-29T14:15:27.000Z

I have asked before
the led not CREE
Chinese led

2100 · 2018-09-29T15:00:34.000Z

Thanks for all the info, i know i can always count on BLFers.

I think if it can achieve 8000 or 9000 lumens it is still a very decent light, chinese LEDs or XHP70. Just that the efficiency might be different, though with 4 x 18650 that would not be so apparent except in a few extreme usage cases.

Sillen, do update this thread after you have received the light, maybe you might even be able to do a ceiling bounce test + lux meter and see how it fares relative to your other known lights.

I am also looking at the customised/DIY 夜巡者 Avaritia NA40 but it’s OOS.
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.20141002.3.20e542f90Vg9WA&scm=1007.10009.70205.100200300000004&id=570136729529&pvid=0868a122-8757-4a19-bcc6-6aa1308db7a1

Neal · 2018-09-29T15:32:57.000Z

2100:

Thanks for all the info, i know i can always count on BLFers.

I think if it can achieve 8000 or 9000 lumens it is still a very decent light, chinese LEDs or XHP70. Just that the efficiency might be different, though with 4 x 18650 that would not be so apparent except in a few extreme usage cases.

Sillen, do update this thread after you have received the light, maybe you might even be able to do a ceiling bounce test + lux meter and see how it fares relative to your other known lights.

I am also looking at the customised/DIY 夜巡者 Avaritia NA40 but it’s OOS.
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I have it
https://www.nealsgadgets.com/collections/other-flashlights/products/nightwatch-avaritia-na40-se-3x-sst40-led-flashlight

Di_Joker · 2018-09-29T16:46:54.000Z

intrigued by

2100 · 2018-09-30T04:19:34.000Z

Oh….it uses the 7070 emitter, it’s already in the description, though the listing title is wrong. Gotta go Taobao and search what the heck is that.
If i can get it to around usd 40 for 11/11 then it’d be great.

Confirmed with the seller via aliwangwang chat, it’s 7070 alright.

Q3为便携型的小型高亮度手电采用7070三灯设计.

配合本店动力型电池VTC6 30A放电超，频档可达到13000LM。

2100 · 2018-09-30T04:30:42.000Z

It’s might be these….

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.1.db421f63TYGdhh&id=522659078021&ns=1&abbucket=12#detail
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.20.db421f63TYGdhh&id=540786550173&ns=1&abbucket=12#detail

7x7mm die, 7070.

15 watter basically. 1700lm. 5100lm light. Compared to the BLF Q8, ain’t that bad esp if you want a floodier light, could be cheaper though. (for me it’s usd 52 from Taobao)
If only these are 20W, then it’d be very decent as well.

2100 · 2018-09-30T04:35:49.000Z

No go at current price.

I might as well pay double the price and get double the lumens, same form factor, with a Olight X7 branded + reliable flashlight with more resale value.

mrheosuper · 2018-09-30T06:23:57.000Z

2100:

No go at current price.

I might as well pay double the price and get double the lumens, same form factor, with a Olight X7 branded + reliable flashlight with more resale value.

where do you buy olight X7 for 100 bucks

Sillen · 2018-09-30T09:21:49.000Z

Feelin silly. Got sucked in by 3 x XHP70 in the title. Can hopefully swap some parts out if it doesn’t perform

BlueSwordM · 2018-09-30T13:57:27.000Z

Ah! Let’s not forget that they are tested at 1.25A at 12V.

Perhaps that is only the tested amperage, and not rated max. The XHP70 is rated at 2.4A at 12V.

So that means the XHP70 clone may be able to push 3000 lumens at its max rated power level. So 9000 lumens may not be far off.

However, the NW version of the MT03 only achieves about 8000lm under load.

2100 · 2018-09-30T15:35:21.000Z

mrheosuper:

2100:

No go at current price.

I might as well pay double the price and get double the lumens, same form factor, with a Olight X7 branded + reliable flashlight with more resale value.

where do you buy olight X7 for 100 bucks

Ok it’s more like usd 113, not usd 100. (there is a rmb 100 coupon voucher, can see it when you add to cart)
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z0d.6639537.1997196601.169.702a7484WP4sMa&id=538622408534
We then consolidate it with other stuff and ship it over, for normal goods it’s quite cheap even by China standards. Folks in HK, Taiwan, Malaysia etc do it this way from Taobao.

If we are lucky, we might see some Taobao sellers offering either a 10% or even 20% discount on 11/11 singles day, which is a very very big thing in China.

2100 · 2018-09-30T15:05:39.000Z

Sillen:

Feelin silly. Got sucked in by 3 x XHP70 in the title. Can hopefully swap some parts out if it doesn’t perform

It’s not tooooo bad, esp if you do not own the BLF Q8 or something. \

Do a ceiling bounce test and see what it can do.

Unfortunately in this case, it’d be very difficult to dispute via Aliexpress’s ESCROW service to get a partial refund. You can try though, if you have the time and can prove with pictures that the LEDs used are not XHP 70.

2100 · 2018-09-30T15:14:40.000Z

BlueSwordM:

Ah! Let’s not forget that they are tested at 1.25A at 12V.

Perhaps that is only the tested amperage, and not rated max. The XHP70 is rated at 2.4A at 12V.

So that means the XHP70 clone may be able to push 3000 lumens at its max rated power level. So 9000 lumens may not be far off.

However, the NW version of the MT03 only achieves about 8000lm under load.

I believe it’s quite unlikely even though Cree’s spec lists it that way (the chinese usually don’t do it such a way), even the chinese specs show it as 6V 2500mA and 12V 1250mA, 1500-1900lm. 15W
It’s most probably not a 30W emitter, efficiency performance aside.

BlueSwordM · 2018-09-30T15:41:10.000Z

Well yeah.

It’s probably an XHP50 7070 sized emitter looking at the specs. Not bad, but not too good in terms of power density at all.

Sillen · 2018-10-05T07:22:43.000Z

Mail’s in! No batteries until this evening. Got my LX1010BS Portable Digital Lux Meter at the same time so will put this next to BLF & Sofirn Q8 and see how we go.

Edit: First impression, it’s brighter than Sofrn Q8. Will have to wait until it’s dark to do an amateur ceiling bounce. Sure gets hot quick!

Jtm94 · 2018-10-05T07:36:06.000Z

The 3x XHP70 light that comes to mind is the Utorch UT03 that never ended up happening.
Can’t wait to see how it stacks up to the Q8!

Lexel · 2018-10-05T08:45:21.000Z

Sillen:

Mail’s in! No batteries until this evening. Got my LX1010BS Portable Digital Lux Meter at the same time so will put this next to BLF & Sofirn Q8 and see how we go.

Edit: First impression, it’s brighter than Sofrn Q8. Will have to wait until it’s dark to do an amateur ceiling bounce. Sure gets hot quick!

Seems some chineese fake XHP70.2