By sense i mean, maybe its not possible to access the full potential of the SFT40 in that host?.. part of what sparked me looking in to thrower options, Is that I was inspired by a friends Nitecore mh25 pro with its super clean and throwy hotspot and smooth soft spill.
Maybe I should be looking at the Osram W1 or W2 for that kind of a spot. I havent looked in to those much because I dont care for cool cct’s, even the 5000k SFT40 is not really my jam… ill take warmth (and neutral to negative DUV, no green! ), high cri, and efficiency over wow factor quick bursts of power. I suppose I could handle a cooler cct for a dedicated thrower as long as its not green.
I certainly dont need a super duper thrower in my daily life, but next year when I go hunting with my Step-Father Id like to have my super thrower sorted out. beyond that its just a fun thing to have around.
My widest light currently is the M21F at 40mm. the C8+ is a little bit wider and maybe deeper?
Maybe i should try the C8+ with the 50.3 in 4000k or 3000k… ive read that the 50.3’s are prone to green tints though… You say the 3v 50.3 so you can give it more Amps? But then the 3v ones only come in 5700k or 6500k… hmm
I was reading one thread that suggested XHP 35 HI as a competitor for the Osrams… and those come warmer…
In a way. SFT40 maxes out at around 10 amps. More than that is possible but you get diminishing returns. An SFT40 at 10 amps in an S2+ is going to heat up very quickly. So you can get full potential, just in short bursts. Some would say it’s not practical to use a driver capable of 10 amps, but it sure is fun. And you can certainly run it at the 30% mode for 3 amps. Keep in mind the SFT40 is still going to outperform the 519A at any current (but the 519A sure looks better, so it depends on your purpose). A SFT40 driven at 10 amps in an S2+ would be what we call a pocket rocket.
I just said 3V XHP50 since the same driver would be used for those other LEDs I mentioned. I think the 4000K XHP50.3 Hi R70 looks great. I also hate green tints and very cool CCTs. The 5000K SFT40 is a good middle ground on CCT and performance (the 3000K looks good but lacks output). I only have one sample of SFT25 5000K from KD and it looks pretty good. Convoy just got them in stock the other day and I ordered a few. IMO, this could make the W2 obsolete for my preferences.
The XHP 35 aren’t very common. I’ve never tried one.
Perhaps the 12v’ness of the XHP35 is part of what makes them less common?
Okay, so ill get a C8 (I’ll go for a C8 over the C8+, i like the cleaner lines of it) as a thrower host to play with. That does seem like another one thats required to get the “FUC”. That is, “Flashlight Enthusiast Card” Oh wait, I guess thats actually “FEC” Oops…
I suppose ill Hmm and Haw about the emitter a bit longer… id say I want to throw in to the 500-1000 M range with as nice of a tint/temp as I can get… Maybe ill try the 3000k SFT40 in it to start, then swap out for something else if that doesnt cut it. Maybe put a FFL505A in it… Haha, i seem to be obsessed with FFL (even though i havent experienced it yet) and nobody seems to have anything to say about them… or just skip all that and get a 50.3 in it…
Will a 50.3 have better throw than a 70.3 because its smaller? But less overall output?
How much less throw/output would be expected between a 50.3 4000k and 3000k? R70 will have more output than R9050? i keep seeing that the R70 is supposed to have better tint than the R9050… Which kind of doesn’t make sense to my current level of understanding… Does that just mean the R70 tends to be rosier than the R9050?
To comfortably throw in this distance, a C8 won’t do with any LED currently available. L21B is the smallest light that can comfortably pull this off. Going for good tint and low CCT makes throw extra difficult to achieve.
Yes.
Yes–at small deviations, CRI and tint are almost independent, and a low CRI emitter can have good tint.
Going from 4000K to 3000K might lose you 10% lumens or something, but how noticeable that it varies a lot from person to person. R70 will have more lumens and throw, yes.
My super thrower is the Acebeam L19 2.0. It is the SFT40 option and I think is my end game thrower. I don’t use it often but when I do, it always impresses me so much. The head is 60mm in diameter, body is slim and comes with good tactical UI. Go read some reviews and comparison to see if that type of beam is for you. It throws a lot further than my M21A with same emitter and 8A buck driver. The TIR eliminates the tunnel effect you get with a reflector thrower. The spill is dimmer and very wide. It gives a good illumination at the surroundings while not blind and distract you from looking at the target under the hotspot. It is the perfect thrower beam for me.
That’s a nice looking light! That’s going on my list
I like the implementation of the dual switch. Normally I don’t like the tail/side switch but that looks really cool, especially with that form factor.
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6500k though… I don’t know if I could handle that… I’d probably end up wanting to put a 3000k SFT40 in it… would that just be silly?
Yes the tail is a e-switch and forward clicky, which overrides whatever mode it is and goes straight to turbo. The side switch can independently control the light, which is convenient.
I got it on Black Friday sale for about $70. If you can get one at that price jump on it. I bought the package without battery. Acebeam battery is overpriced. Just get a normal 5000mAh 21700 and it works no problem.
), high cri, and efficiency over wow factor quick bursts of power. I suppose I could handle a cooler cct for a dedicated thrower as long as its not green.
