I really feel f*** ed up with my BLF GT

Xandre · 2018-03-27T10:17:45.000Z

Hi

I paid my first 15 dollar
at 08.26.2017 with my Paypal account direct to Neal.

Now It is to late for a Paypal conflict.-Loosing 15 dollar.

The next pay about 100 Dollars was at 12.03.2017 from my girlfriends Paypal account.
Today I opened a conflict.

I write this two transfers to the giggle team-no answer

Neal write me per email that the first money is still missing,
but I told him per email what is happened- no answer.

Do not receive a BLF GT

That is really uncool at all.

RobertB · 2018-03-27T11:27:24.000Z

There’s a thread for that, where someone who could do something would actually see your post

[PART 2] Official BLF GT Group Buy thread. Closed, but Public sales open! BLF Special Edition Products

Continuation of the massive GT Group Buy Thread [15 Aug 2018] There has been no real movement as far as Lumintop supporting the last few people who still have issues. [6 July 2018] It seems that support and all issues related to the GT are transitioning from Neal to Leo at Lumintop. The new contact email for GT issues is leo@lumintop.com. Bags and caps are still handled through Neal and he has said all the orders are sent and issues handled. [8 June 2018] Lumintop has now officially lis…

JasonWW · 2018-03-29T02:25:27.000Z

Yeah, I read all the posts in the GT thread and never saw your name come up. Assuming your light has not been shipped yet, you should be able to get a refund, but it could take a little time for Neal to sort out all the other issues as well as get his Paypal account back open so he can do refunds.

Go to post #1 of the GT thread and fill out that outstanding issues form.

Xandre · 2018-03-29T08:53:02.000Z

Thanks

Xandre [22] was my number

I have written to the giggle team about the two transactions with Paypal
written emails with Neal

-no answer from the giggles team.
-no BLF GT
-loosing my 115 bucks.(at the moment 15 bucks,the 100 is PP conflict now)
-loosing my intress in any Groupbuy

That is not the way I like.

There should be a will to help,but I can not find it.

djozz · 2018-03-29T09:23:13.000Z

Hi Xandre,

I’m sorry for you being so unlucky with the GT group buy, I hope you get your 115 dollars back but of course it would have been much better if you received your GT, especially since you were one of the first to enter the interest list.
I hope to see you some time again in one of the german meet-ups (I can not come to the upcoming ‘sommer-eingrillen’ unfortunately but I hope to attend the next one).

Cheers, Jos

I’m not in the giggles team but there is a misconception, I think because the GT project is called a ‘group buy’ which is not what it is. It would have been much better if it was called a ‘project’ instead because a complete new flashlight was designed, manufactured and distributed, and in all of these steps new territory was entered. In all such projects thusfar, a number of random people got disappointed, either because first run manufactured lights had faults that got solved in later runs, or first subscribers got their lights last (or not al all, like Xandre), or simply because the design was less than optimal (I still think that the X5 and X6 should have had a better led centering solution). Problems in these projects appear, after a number of projects, to be normal and to be expected. (but apart from problems, a brand new awesome BLF-designed flashlight comes into existence ).

This implies that entering such project comes with a certain risk of not getting what was intended. So apart from naming it a ‘project’, the team should mention this risk beforehand so that people take that into account when entering. Those random people will still be disappointed, but at least the unlucky ones would accept their misfortune a bit better.

Xandre · 2018-03-29T09:31:40.000Z

Thanks Jos for the kind words.

Hope to see you again .

PS: Wear your EDC allways in my heart and my pocket.

Regards Xandre

djozz · 2018-03-29T11:12:48.000Z

Xandre:

Thanks Jos for the kind words.

Hope to see you again .

PS: Wear your EDC allways in my heart and my pocket.

Regards Xandre

Awesome that the little light still works. It had one of the first BLF-designed 12mm li-ion drivers, board design by Rufusbduck and Mataus, FET-conversion hack by me, and has that huge Vishay 70N02 FET crammed in that we used before that we found out that smaller FETs existed that worked just as well. :party:

LZZ-06 mod#2: XM-L2 T6 3C, BLF-tiny12 driver+FET, Efest 10440 V2 ***27 lumen/gram !!*** Flashlight Modding and DIY Parts

Not long ago I did a direct drive mod with this small AAA-size light. (details on the host can be found there, and in a thread about this light) [image] Everything very well connected, XM-L2 on copper, Efest 10440, it did over 500 lumens for 3 minutes (that is a significant part of total battery runtime already, 10 minutes at what I guess is 2+ amps). But, even tiny as the light is, 500 lumens is not always practical, especially since the beam pattern of such a small light with an xml favors c…

Neal · 2018-03-29T10:44:47.000Z

can u PM me the details?

JasonWW · 2018-03-29T15:11:43.000Z

Xandre:

I have written to the giggle team about the two transactions with Paypal

written emails with Neal

-no answer from the giggles team.

There should be a will to help,but I can not find it.

Did you send a PM to Team Giggles or to Texas_Ace?.

Team Giggles is a group account and it’s messages are not monitored as said in this news section in post #1.

[10 Jan 2018] The PM’s for this account “Team-Giggles” have been disabled for the time being as no one actively monitors them right now. Please contact Neal or Texas_Ace with any questions instead.

If you sent a PM to TA, then he should have got it and responded. He usually does.

Neal on the other hand was getting overloaded and answering very few PM and emails until just recently.

Plus you didn’t say anything in the main GT thread.

I think all these things might have been why you didn’t get any responses or help.

I see your getting responses now. :+1:

Xandre · 2018-03-29T16:40:50.000Z

Neal:

can u PM me the details?

Sure and thanks
done.send you the Paypaltransactionsnumbers.

Regards Xandre

Nicolaas · 2018-03-29T17:58:02.000Z

Somehow I’m confident that this will all be sorted out.
And if you end up without a BLF GT you can always contact me.
I’m always willing to help a friend.

Cheers
Nico

Xandre · 2018-03-30T09:31:17.000Z

Thanks my friend

Regards Xandre

Xandre · 2018-03-30T09:39:07.000Z

Loose my intress,
hope to get my money back…

Regards Xandre

Nicolaas · 2018-03-30T09:42:36.000Z

Too bad you lost yr interest in this light but I’m sure you’ll get yr money back.
.
Neal seems to be a straight up guy but with the sheer volumes of lights ordered, the Chinese New Year and his hassle with his Paypal acct
I can understand that some things have gotten mixed up or delayed.
.
Be patient and it will work out, I’m confident.

See ya next month!

LG
Nico

Neal · 2018-03-30T09:52:58.000Z

money refund

Xandre · 2018-03-30T10:04:06.000Z

Thanks