I'm looking for my grail light 0.7" diameter 500 lumen 14500 light

JJMcGee83 · 2018-09-26T03:32:41.000Z

moderator007:

JJMcGee83:

Geuzzz:

D25a ti nichia 4000k comes close to all you want.

They apparently don’t make it anymore and I don’t think it will allow 14500 or get the output. Is there a mod I can do?

My opinion to achieve what you want.
I don’t know the size of the driver, so a 15mm Mtnelectronics driver with 4 7135’s might work or 17mm with 4 7135’s removed filed down if its 16mm.
I think 4 7135’s will work with a nichia or samsung led in a high CRI to get you to the 500 lumen mark. 4 7135’s will give about 1400ma except on the 17mm driver, 4 will give about 1490ma. Its possible with the 17mm driver only 3 7135’s would be needed to reach 500 lumens depending on the led you use. I prefer the Samsung 4000k LH351D 90 CRI. The drivers from Mtn have different UI’s you can chose from.
If the D25a is your chosen size light but lacks other features, then modding it should get you your holy grail.
For most of us modders that’s the whole reason we do it, we can’t buy a light exactly like we want it.

What kind of tools would I need to do something like that?

Cereal_killer:

The L3 L10 clicky would be a potential mod host of you didn’t want to mod the D25C.

That looks like a neat little light.

RobertB · 2018-09-26T03:38:07.000Z

Jetbeam Jet 1 Mk. 1.5 to 480lm. 14500/AA twisty. .76” at knurling on the head, .66” battery tube. Great build quality, and inexpensive. I bought several a year or two ago in the 10 dollar each range. I don’t normally like twistys, but this is an exception.

moderator007 · 2018-09-26T03:39:40.000Z

Its hard to say exactly without knowing how everything is in the light. A soldering iron of 50 watts or more, solder, flux, probably a file, maybe needle nose pliers, thermal paste and a frying pan and stove.

JJMcGee83 · 2018-09-26T05:27:46.000Z

moderator007:

Its hard to say exactly without knowing how everything is in the light. A soldering iron of 50 watts or more, solder, flux, probably a file, maybe needle nose pliers, thermal paste and a frying pan and stove.

What would I need a frying pan and stove for?

Boaz · 2018-09-26T08:44:08.000Z

Girls gotta eat ..

To reflow the emitter onto the mcpcb...and snacks

moderator007 · 2018-09-26T11:02:40.000Z

Boaz:

Girls gotta eat …

To reflow the emitter onto the mcpcb…and snacks

That’s it. That method works good and you should already have what you need for this step. Sometimes it’s easier to reflow a new emitter on to the existing board in the light.

Jambo · 2018-11-08T13:43:43.000Z

The new Eagtac D25a Clicky MKII?

I’m pretty much in the same boat. I’d just like a ramping interface toykeeper style.

Illumenated · 2018-11-08T15:17:03.000Z

I pretty much want Toykeeper’s interface in ALL my lights

SKV89 · 2018-11-08T18:28:54.000Z

I modded a Sofirn SF14 with a E21A 4000k on 16mm mcpcb from Virence.com. Very easy to do as all you have to do is solder the two wires. Don’t have to reflow the emitters. It is around 500 lumens on 14500. The tint is the most beautiful 4000k tint in existence. It looks almost identical to the 219B 4000k 9080. Compared with my LH351D 4000k 90CRI, it makes the LH351D look like puke green.

Another potential candidate is the Enogear 14500 stainless steel with usb recharge. It is a tiny 14500 light. The tint is decent 4000k-4500k but not as good as the Enogear AA stainless version, which is superb.

OverBudget · 2018-11-10T16:23:33.000Z

Jambo:

The new Eagtac D25a Clicky MKII?

I’m pretty much in the same boat. I’d just like a ramping interface toykeeper style.

I just recently got one of the new D25a MKII lights. I am really not impressed with the 14500 function of it. I bought Eagtac brand 14500s, and they are too long for the light. When used in the light, the three basic modes work fine, but to turn the head to use the turbo mode, I have to turn the head so tight that I nearly need pliers to loosen it. Maybe it would function better with a shorter 14500 battery, but it gets really hot after about a minute of use on high with the 14500, and moonlight mode turns more like medium mode, so I just put a AA in it. I got the neutral xp-l hi version, the beam is great and I’m very happy with the neutral tint, which is a warmer than my other “neutral” lights. I’m very happy with the light, just not the 14500 function of it.

JJMcGee83 · 2018-11-11T18:19:56.000Z

Jambo:

The new Eagtac D25a Clicky MKII?

I’m pretty much in the same boat. I’d just like a ramping interface toykeeper style.

I was not aware they made a MKII… interesting.

I’ve been looking into finding a “maker space” local to me with a CNC. I figure if I can get the shape of the tube right I can find a switch, TIR lens, and emiter to stuff in it. If I can’t find what I’m gonna try making it I guess.

nick779 · 2018-11-15T18:54:35.000Z

Have any of you guys with Ultratac A1s gotten them apart? Mine has some clear epoxy looking stuff around the edges of the pill and it wont budge even with tools seated firmly in the slots.

Its a pretty solid little light, I just dont like the tint.

wstrachan · 2018-11-15T20:08:02.000Z

None of the lights that accept 14500 or AAs perform as well with a AA….

Here are a few that I own and personally can vouch for:
Lumintop Tool AA V2 accepts 14500 batteries and with them does 600 lumen
Utorch UT01 is a 14500 light or AA and does 800 lumen (programmable feature is very cool)
Klarus XT1A is 1000 lumen and uses AA or 14500
Thorfire TG06S can be found for around $12 on Amazon and does 500+ lumens

All of these high lumen lights running a 14500 with 750mAh cells are going to have limited run-time. My $0.02 is your better off with a smallish 18650 light.
I LOVE my Thrunite TC15!

toddcshoe · 2018-11-16T01:46:26.000Z

nick779:

Have any of you guys with Ultratac A1s gotten them apart? Mine has some clear epoxy looking stuff around the edges of the pill and it wont budge even with tools seated firmly in the slots.

Its a pretty solid little light, I just dont like the tint.

I haven’t tried to take any of mine apart yet. I was waiting to see what Moderator007 comes up with on his mod. Shoot him a PM. Bet he can help you out. Surprised you don’t like the tint though. It is quite nice the way it is, though I guess that is where personal preference comes in.

moderator007 · 2018-11-16T03:39:28.000Z

Been awhile since I pulled it apart. The pill does take quite a bit of force to get it to turn loose. I used a pair of very fine long needle nose pliers.
Mine look like these but they’re from china. I have no idea where I got them. It will come out if you can get the right tool and enough torque to free the loctite. A little heat or freezing might help also.
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@toddcshoe, I did manage to get the mountain boost driver in the A1 with a xhp50.2. I made a pill on the lathe to make it fit. Unfortunately I did something to the driver during testing where the output current doesn’t try to stay constant. Waiting patiently for Richard to release a new batch to replace mine with. It’s floody with the xhp50.2 shoved in such a small reflector.

Paul_in_Maryland · 2018-11-27T20:57:02.000Z

Geuzzz:

D25a ti nichia 4000k comes close to all you want.

I ordered the D25A Clicky (not the Ti variant) with Nichia 4000K a couple days ago from the only remaining North American source: GoingGear.com. As of this writing, there are two left, $50 apiece, shipped. I don’t recall how its brightness compares withe the Ti Nichia.

nick779 · 2018-11-28T15:45:18.000Z

Does anyone know a custom builder who does lathe work by request?

I like to think that what I want is simple, but its turning into a unicorn hunt.

AL or Copper (AL preferred)
14500 power (Only)
Copper pill or integrated shelf of AL Emisar style.
Clicky or twisty
Deep carry clip
Thin host with some simple knurling. Think almost like a maglight solitaire. Under 20mm thick, under 19 preferred.

If theyre building the light then:

Warm emitter (XP-L HI or 219C 4k CRI 80+)
FET+1 (Multi mode with a good moon, I personally dont want strobes)

This is pretty close, but the 10lm “moon” is WAY too bright.

The UltraTac A1 is almost perfect, but the clip is terrible and the driver sucks for 14500 (badly spaced modes and no LVC).

Agro · 2018-11-28T15:40:59.000Z

Texas Lumens? I’m sure there are others here on BLF as well.
But I wonder if a mod wouldn’t be sufficient?

Actually I’ve been also looking for such light. As thin as possible (17 mm?), as short as possible w/out making it thicker, with a good driver, good LED, good build quality. And a loop attachment. That’s it. There are no stock lights that are even close.

nick779 · 2018-11-28T15:41:13.000Z

Agro:

Texas Lumens? I’m sure there are others here on BLF as well.
But I wonder if a mod wouldn’t be sufficient?

Actually I’ve been also looking for such light. As thin as possible (17 mm?), as short as possible w/out making it thicker, with a good driver and LED. And a loop attachment. That’s it. There are no stock lights that are even close.

TL didnt want to deal with anything under 18650 bore. Already asked.

EasyB · 2018-11-28T15:43:46.000Z

nick779:

Does anyone know a custom builder who does lathe work by request?

I like to think that what I want is simple, but its turning into a unicorn hunt.

14500 power (Only, or a buck/boost driver for both)
Warm emitter (XP-L HI or 219C 4k CRI 80+)
FET+1 (Multi mode with a good moon, I personally dont want strobes)
Copper pill
Clicky or twisty
Deep carry clip
Thin host with some simple knurling. Think almost like a maglight solitaire. Under 20mm thick, under 19 preferred.

This is pretty close, but the 10lm “moon” is WAY too bright.

The UltraTac A1 is almost perfect, but the clip is terrible and the driver sucks for 14500 (badly spaced modes and no LVC).

You can modify a thrunite T10 like I did with a FET driver. I used a FET only but there is a FET+1 available in the right size. Described here.

Thrunite T10 XP-L version: tear-down and mod Flashlight Modding and DIY Parts

I got this light as an EDC option that is thinner than my Convoy S2+. I haven’t seen information on modding this newer version of the light so I thought I would post my experience with it. As far as I can tell the front portion of this light is similar to the last XP-G2 version, but the tailcap portion and belt clip are different. See here for a review of this light. Unfortunately both the bezel and tailcap threads are glued. Fortunately I was able to un-stick them with a bit of heat (~50C just…

The T10 is thin with a rear clicky switch and good deep carry clip.