JohnnyMac's "Ultimate RGB" Shadow SL-3 (beamshot's added)

I built this for JohnnyMac while in the process of building my own so I thought I'd do a build thread on it since I'm still waiting on parts for mine. I sent my reflector to comfychair for some milling (which it turns out tho I'm sure it would of made it easier I managed to do JM's without touching the reflector) and it got lost in the mail on the way. Comfy is going to make me a totally custom 3-up reflector out of some SST-50 reflectors I ordered but they're taking their time to get here from DX.

The driver is a 6*7135 (per ch) driver I designed based off a DrJones chip which he customized to not use a white channel, instead replacing everywhere there was white with RGB. I've done lots of RGB / RGBW stuff recently but all of it using one of my own UI's or MELD purchased on chips (for drivers I design) from tterev3, this is my first experience with DrJones' RGBW FW and I quite like it, I like how it allows brightness adjustment on the colors as well as a mode with fully customizable color (by ramping each die one at a time). It is a little harder to use, and a little less intuitive to pick up on (tonight when I was testing I had to have my phone on the description page and I still dont have all the multi-clicks figured out so I'll give a point to MELD there.

Anyway the build was a lot of fun and its without a doubt some of my best work to date! I especially like the copper writing on the driver, it didnt turn out quite a perfect as I hoped but I was able to lightly scrape the mask without doing to much damage, what I should of done is extended the bottom copper circle out and just trying in bStop instead of trying to type in both copper and then bstop right on top of that.

some images are mouse overs

out = driver top, over = driver bottom. A surprisingly easy to build driver and it fits with zero filing!

One thing you probably notice is the mix of 7135's, Some people complain about the narrow band white saying it doesnt render white objects true enough to tell whats white (thats definitely not the case and I invite anyone who feels that way to build one of these using this mix of bin's, the hardware is all open source and DrJones sells the chips for very cheap), I've been doing this RGB stuff a little while now any I've found what I feel is the most ideal mix of .35 and .38A 7135, minute differences in current can really help even it out. I have all 6 .38's for blue, 5 .38's for green and only 3 .38's for red

Usually I use all XP-E2's but I decided to do this one a little different and use a blue XT-E, I was hoping a new 32mm triple noctigon would fit but it was just barely to small , the XP16's had to be filed to fit along the I.D. of the head. One thing interesting is JM's host was apparently a newer version (it originally had XM-L2's,vs my XM-L's) and it had a thicker emitter shelf, cant complain there but on mine I got to build a new solid copper heatsink to make up the height of the bolt in aluminum emitter shelf in my original version.

(out = emitters in = AS epoxy drying, first look at awesomeness)

Also did some resistance mods, not only does this light run <6.6A on max but the DrJones FW has a cell resistance measurement feature which requires the best possible (lowest resistance) electrical path to read as accurately as possible. I ditched the crummy factory spring and built this

(out = cutting the 22Ga disk down to size, in = finished with OE spring for comparison)

Finally I was ready to fire it up without the reflector (I was thinking the reflector was going to be a much bigger issue that it was, infact it ws a non-issue all together, not I really feel bad about loosing mine :()

and finally put together (no visible PWM even on low, point DrJones!), This thing begs for an AR lens!

As always color numbers are most likely very inaccurate (and probably pretty low)

Lm measured in my lumen cooler (which is within 2% of F1 with white light), lux taken @ 5m and converted back to 1m

max = 800Lm

throw = 45kCd (very impressive!)

Beamshots with lots of other RGB / RGBW lights in the works (will be its own thread probably after this weekend). I will tease you for now by saying the color mixing is excellent, the large reflectors are very well aimed in on each other for a tight spot which means better mixing without using diffuser film.

And finally, I think this is the best part- every time he changed the battery he gets to be reminded just how special this light is to him, sure my name and logo is in white silkscreen, but his is written in copper and is part of the batt+ terminal!

Johnny, brother, I hope you never sell this light but if you do please give me first option and I'll buy it back from you, even if my custom reflector frankenlight turns out just as good I still want yours cause it was the first one.

Need beam shots please

Coming weekend thx

Looks interesting but centering those emitters is a PITA job.
But, what I would really like to know is where did you get green and blue XP-E2 leds?
I buy red ones from IO but can’t find blue and especially green nowhere or I should say can’t find them from China based sellers!
They are probably available at mouser electronics or digikey but shipping from those two is insanely expensive so they are out of the deal…

P.S. waiting for a beamshots :stuck_out_tongue:

The emitters were no problem to center thanks to those XM reflector opening to XP centering rings from fasttech. What your seeing, especially in the red one above isnt the LED off center in the reflector, thats the clear centering ring slightly illuminated. They are all perfectly centered! I also sanded down the tops of the centering rings so they wernt blocking the light at all, the domes stick completely up above them. Trust me when I say, with this light going to JohnnyMac I thought of EVERYTHING.

I get all my R,G&B XP-E2’s from Digikey (for a very good price, $2.54-2.75/ea) and I buy amber XP-E2 from mouser (VERY limited supply) but mouser is more $$ on the R,G&B ones and I just like DK better.

There may be a delay in the beamshot’s, I’m having some issues with the MCU’s, I hope I can get it figured out ASAP tho! I know JM’s jonsen for his light now!

I love it. Great mod C-K!

so the centering rings from ft do fit, nice. I bought I would say every model of centering rings that I could find for centering XP tipe leds in Convoy C8 SMO reflector, non of them is perfect fit :frowning: ended up using supplied ring shifted by 45 degrees, not too happy with results…

After a hiccup with the FW new chip’s from DrJones arrived today and the light is now running perfectly. Beamshots and a UI demo video coming TODAY (video uploading now, beamshots tonight)

Looking good! IMO one of your "cleanest" builds to date. I really like that custom driver with the cutouts and switch for that particular light.

Thanks man.

Heres a video of the UI, beamshot’s coming tonight.

That is a pretty board, nicely done.

I like the way you color coded your Noctigons. Very sane, heh.

Lol thanks. Not really needed with this light since the blue is an XT-E but when B and G are both XP-E2’s its easy to get them mixed up so I got in the habit.

Headed out now for beamshots, it’s quite impressive (I took it on my dog walk earlier but people look at you like your insane if you pull out a tripod and camera equipment and it looks like you’re taking pic’s of a brick wall / tree line).

Nice build :)

Here's how to read the voltage indicator:

color submode: shows voltage without load as mixed color; pure blue is 4.0V, pure green is 3.5V, pure red is 3.0V, voltages in between show as mixed colors (in this case probably blue with a tad of green, can't see it in the video, but that would correspond to the value below).

digits submode: actually shows 2 voltages: first without load, in this video 3.90V; then with load of one channel (in this build 2.1A), here 3.72V.

Beamshot's from last night, lets start off with my standard 100m location

locked daylight WB, -0.3 exposture (my standard settings)

first is the SL-3. Notice you can see a little bit of the flower pedal effect in the foreground (R on left, G on right)

For comparison here is Pukelight (it has a 35mm Ledil Cute "spot" optic at 2.6A (8*7135) per channel, measures 21kCd)

And one more, my RGBW_Clicky quad on turbo (all 4 emitter [including white XP-L] on 100%) notice in the foreground there is a little better CRI but at distance the white fades off

Next is my standard 60m shot

red

Green

Blue

And finally, 10m color wall shot (I take these exact shot's of every color light I build for my personal use) 10m to wall, rock exactly 1/2 way

Red

Green

Blue

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