Latest release Vapcell 21700 5600mah 12.5A battery

Henk4U2 · 2023-07-18T08:44:53.796Z

Those are impressive numbers for sure.

dmenezes · 2023-07-18T08:52:05.170Z

vapcell Dennis:

Mooch test link

Thanks for the link to Mooch’s Patreon, I used to look for his posts on FB etc, this is much better. And here’s the direct link to his N40 review: https://www.patreon.com/posts/vapcell-n40-10a-85425747

Unfortunately it’s paywalled… :-/ I guess that’s what you meant by “not released yet”.

vapcell Dennis:

Yes, the 18650 original batteries are all flat top and can be machined withbutton top or protective plates

Looking forward to these. I have a use case presently being served by LG MJ1s where these extra 500mAh will be very welcome.

YBF650 · 2023-07-18T08:55:09.111Z

dmenezes:

I have a use case presently being served by LG MJ1s where these extra 500mAh will be very welcome

It’s the perfect battery for an LT1, if cost isn’t an issue. 16Ah should keep it running for quite a while, only way to come close would be to use 3x 21700 in a custom body tube.

vapcell_Dennis · 2023-07-18T08:57:22.474Z

LG MJ1 about 3400-3450mah ，Vapcell N40 about 4000-4150mah

vapcell_Dennis · 2023-07-18T09:01:47.707Z

Mooch has not yet been posted on public platforms such as forums and Facebook

Currently, payment is required to view content

We checked the paid content and the test result is probably OK

It is expected that he will be published on the public platform in some time

dmenezes · 2023-07-18T09:14:31.447Z

Meanwhile some searching has brought this up[1]:

Vapcell batteries are tested by battery expert who enjoy good reputation like battery mooch, HKJ, Torchy

Subsequent searching for this “Torchy” person brought no results… as it’s in your Alibaba page, could you please give us a pointer?

[1] https://vapcelltech.en.alibaba.com/

vapcell_Dennis · 2023-07-18T09:21:51.543Z

dmenezes:

Torchy

He is a reviewer in the UK
https://www.facebook.com/TorchyUK

And then there’s the Ukrainian reviewer，Kirich

There are many types of testing vapcell batteries

https://www.kirich.blog/obzory/akkumulyatory/1168-vapcell-t39-21700-3900mah-prosto-vysokotokovye-akkumulyatory.html

dmenezes · 2023-07-18T09:37:12.940Z

Thanks for the pointers to TorchyUK and Kirich, more reviewers are always appreciated!

dmenezes · 2023-07-18T09:38:52.050Z

It’s the perfect battery for an LT1

And in the same vein, I think the LT1 is the perfect light for this kind of battery, as it uses them in a parallel configuration so much less chance of mishaps – even with a protected battery, I would be wary of putting 4x4000mAh in series

vapcell_Dennis · 2023-07-18T09:52:03.491Z

YBF650:

It’s the perfect battery for an LT1, if cost isn’t an issue. 16Ah should keep it running for quite a while, only way to come close would be to use 3x 21700 in a custom body tube.

The unit price of Vapcell N40 is relatively expensive, belonging to high-end batteries

Vapcell F38 has a relatively high cost-effectiveness, with a wholesale price of $3. x

dmenezes · 2023-07-18T10:17:07.609Z

vapcell Dennis:

The unit price of Vapcell N40 is relatively expensive, belonging to high-end batteries

Just checked and right now this seems to be the only page these batteries can be purchased from: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805511868669.html

At $20.67 for 2 batteries (u$ $10.34 per battery) I don’t find them horribly expensive, everything considered – I paid almost $7 for my MJ1s a couple of months ago.

But is Vapcell really only selling them through AliExpress? I for one hate AliExpress and avoid like hell buying anything there…

vapcell_Dennis · 2023-07-18T10:23:11.465Z

The selling price of AliExpress is fluctuating, and registration for various discount activities

Sometimes the price is very cheap. If there is a demand, make the payment and place the order as soon as possible

After some time, some distributors in the United States or other countries will sell these new battery cells

May I ask where you come from and are there any local battery distributors who recommend purchasing some batteries? Thanks

dmenezes · 2023-07-18T10:46:09.996Z

Thanks for the additional details.

vapcell Dennis:

May I ask where you come from and are there any local battery distributors who recommend purchasing some batteries? Thanks

I’m currently in Chile and local battery distributors here generally suck, haven’t found a good one yet, at least for Li-Ions – if you have a reseller or similar here, please let me know.

In the US I usually purchase from illlumn.com and other stores listed on batteries.parametrek.com – alas, I see the N40 isn’t being listed, probably because no stores are carrying it yet… @Parametrek might be interested to hear from you when you have any stores selling them.

vapcell_Dennis · 2023-07-19T11:18:15.795Z

Thank you, Illlumn expects some new Vapcell batteries to arrive
. parametrek.com is a platform for organizing battery prices, but does not sell batteries, right? This is outstanding. But I see many battery brands that are not on the list

dmenezes · 2023-07-19T11:24:01.704Z

vapcell Dennis:

parametrek.com is a platform for organizing battery prices, but does not sell batteries, right?

Yes, that’s how I understand it works: it offers a searchable/queryable database of batteries and their characteristics and prices, and along each result points to a web store selling it.

This is outstanding. But I see many battery brands that are not on the list

I agree with the “outstanding” adjective, it’s a great tool.

Re: brands on the list, I think @Parametrek himself is better equipped than me to respond.

vapcell_Dennis · 2023-07-20T10:50:01.835Z

ok，thanks

duckie · 2023-08-05T08:30:36.753Z

@vapcell_Dennis Would you be able to provide the datasheet and the UN38.3 report on the F12?

vapcell_Dennis · 2023-08-06T15:40:09.853Z

May I ask if you have any product uses? Generally, contact sales to obtain battery certification information. F12 should have these information

If you want to connect with me, please let me know your email address

Thanks

akula88 · 2023-08-11T12:05:51.064Z

Hi Dennis,

Are there any development for the sub-18650 batteries --?

I’m talking about 18350, 16650/17760 and 16340 form factors.

I would think that with the increased capacity would eventually trickle into the other sizes.

vapcell_Dennis · 2023-08-13T14:59:10.547Z

akula88:

Are there any development for the sub-18650 batteries --?

I’m talking about 18350, 16650/17760 and 16340 form factors.

I would think that with the increased capacity would eventually trickle into the other sizes.

It will have an impact

The energy density of 18350 and 16340 is constantly increasing, and I believe it will continue to increase in the future

16650 and other side door models have very small uses and are not expected to be optimistic

Because the order quantity is too small, no factory is willing to design new products

The ability to increase energy density mainly depends on the order quantity and unit price