LH351D 90CRI Spectrum Tests

SKV89 · 2019-08-25T23:31:25.000Z

jon_slider:

I enjoy the LH351d, its slightly pink or peach, compared to cooler lights
not pink compared to a 9080 219b, but its nice, without green tint

So this is a LH351D 5000K that you dedomed and swapped in yourself? If so, how did you dedome it?

contactcr · 2019-08-25T23:34:36.000Z

SPHWHTL3DA0GF4VPP6 (3000K)

This one is pretty decent but the 2700K and 3500K both have a slightly better tint (regarding proximity to BBL). This is one better flux bin than the 2700K and the same flux bin as the 3500K.

jon_slider · 2019-08-25T23:39:15.000Z

SKV89:

So this is a LH351D 5000K that you dedomed and swapped in yourself? If so, how did you dedome it?

I got the light as a gift from contactcr

contactcr · 2019-08-25T23:46:53.000Z

SKV89:

jon_slider:

I enjoy the LH351d, its slightly pink or peach, compared to cooler lights
not pink compared to a 9080 219b, but its nice, without green tint

So this is a LH351D 5000K that you dedomed and swapped in yourself? If so, how did you dedome it?

I sliced that one. I used 3 washers, the final one being a 0.9mm thick 19mm outside diameter very smooth stainless washer I found at Lowes hardware. With Feather Double Edge razor blade. The first two cuts with the thicker washers then it usually takes 1-3 slices with the final washer depending on how thin and even you want it.

I always reflow them on a 20mm star with no solder on the LED pads so it sits flat. If I want to do multiple at once I also have a 33mm 4XP noctigon with no solder on LED pads too.

contactcr · 2019-08-25T23:53:54.000Z

So after all this testing I think the stand out ones are 2700K, 3500K if you want to keep the dome on.

For slicing I think any of them with Duv of 0.0035 or less would work nicely depending on where you want the tint to end up.

I think I will make a larger order of 3500K and also get the 5000K dog fart from Digi-Key and hope for the best. Still searching for a decent 4K. I have one lead on an unknown bin from China that I may be able to get a sample of.

contactcr · 2019-08-26T00:23:13.000Z

SPHWHTL3DA0GF4TPQ6 (4000K)

Just some prelim testing w/ Carclo Frosted:

CCT = 4030K (Duv 0.0036)
CCT = 4025K (Duv 0.0033)
CCT = 4041K (Duv 0.0029)
CCT = 4054K (Duv 0.0020)
CCT = 4067K (Duv 0.0011)

jon_slider · 2019-08-26T01:25:24.000Z

The Fabled Nichia 219B - still relevant? Flashlight Modding and DIY Parts

Hi All, So with certain bins of SST20’s CRI being close to that of the 219B, I was wondering if the 219B is still the bees knees for CRI. Is there still a place for this and widespread use in 2019? That being said, the nomenclature has me very confused. Is this it? MPN: NVSL219BT-V1 FPN: H3535W2-945B-FD Bin Conditions: sw45k5,sw45k6,sw45k7,sw45k8/D180,D200,D220/L1,L2,M1/R9080 I see 9080, and SW45k, but I was wondering what’s the other number following the k - anyone care to enlighten me? T…

shaved LH351D.

Modded Tool AAA:
CCT = 4490K (Duv –0.0031)

Color Rendering Index (Ra) = 94.2 [ R9 = 69.5 ]

I like this TIR LH351d light,

it has earned a spot on my mouse pad,
The tint is good during the day

and being twice as bright as my sw45k, cant be bad

respect the 351

of note
all the other lights in my edc rotation are 219b
this 351 is the only outsider to make the cut
I particularly like the pebbled tir beam, very even, useful at close range

efficiency test
with a depleted Eneloop AAA at 1.2v in the Tool that contactcr built w LH351s I got 55 lumens on max.

The same battery in my copper tool, powering an sw45k, gave me 25 lumens…

so yes, the LH351d Is indeed twice as bright as the sw45k… wow…

e1000 · 2019-08-28T22:33:54.000Z

Looks like MTN has restocked 4000K +90CRI LH351D’s (bare LED). Anyone know if these are the same as the Digikey ones? P6 flux bin, doesn’t say what CCT bin, I’m thinking it might be the same TP quarter bin.

jon_slider · 2019-08-28T23:17:59.000Z

dont know the answer to your questions, but here are some visuals, for reference
the light in the middle thanks to contactcr

max output reference:
the Cu eTool makes 110 lumens with a 4000k 219c or with a 6000 xp-g2, and it is supposed to make 80 lumens w a 219b 4000k

I was checking to see if there was an obvious difference in “efficiency” as expressed as max lumens on Hi. Albeit the hosts are not identical, they all came suprisingly close to the same outputs, on my light meter, calibrated to an HDS:

73 lm 219b 4.5k Cu Tool w reflector, very pink during the day

72 lm LH351d 5k Aluminum Tool aaa w tir, very neutral during the day, but looks pink compared to optisolis and looks yellow compared to 219b… iow tint is relative

67 lm optisolis 6k JetU w pebble tir, slightly green during the day

mattlward · 2019-08-28T23:20:03.000Z

Where did you find a tir that fits the tool? I have looked from time to time…

jon_slider · 2019-08-28T23:24:48.000Z

mattlward:

Where did you find a tir that fits the tool? I have looked from time to time…

comes on the light from lumintop that way now
https://www.amazon.com/LUMINTOP-Flashlight-Pocket-Sized-Waterproof-Backpacking/dp/B07G98XCG4
they are doing that with the new worm too, now called EDC01

clemence is the master of TiR and cherry picked the one he put on the JetU, I dont know his secrets, maybe ask, or maybe contactcr already can tell you…

mattlward · 2019-08-28T23:34:13.000Z

My tools and rey lights are all reflector lights…

contactcr · 2019-08-28T23:36:43.000Z

I’m going to plug my own sale thread cause I’m a rebel.

I’m selling a small batch of the 3500K LEDs from this test along with some other spare LEDs from my parts bin:

[SALE ENDED] EXTRA LEDs (Osram, SST-20, LH351D, XHP35/70, 219C, etc) Want to Sell

Sale is over since majority of LEDs are gone, if you want some of the Osram LEDs just PM me if I still have them It’s time again to re-open this thread with new LEDs. Shipping is $5. Payment via PayPal with goods & services is fine, i’ll eat the fees. If international, only envelope shipping ($3) and no PCB allowed, I can de-solder if necessary. All LEDs are bare unless otherwise noted. LH351D 5000K 90 CRI (SLICED, batch #1) $3.50/ea (2 available)- LH351D 5000K 90 CRI (SLICED, batch #2) $3…

contactcr · 2019-08-29T01:03:34.000Z

Digi-Key “dog fart” arrived. It’s almost identical to the Arrow one tested except for about 100K higher CCT ~4800K instead of ~4700K. Duv is otherwise the same.

jon_slider · 2020-05-25T23:43:44.000Z

for a 2700k option I think the SST-20 might have higher R9 than the 2700k LH351d… not sure… I have not compared their specs…

here is a link to the Warm SST
Luminus SST-20 J3 JA3 Warm White 2700K CRI95 LED Emitter

pic is a link to the warm LH351d source

buck91 · 2020-05-25T23:17:19.000Z

How does the LH351D 90cri compare to a nichia 319A (80cri) in terms of efficiency and beam pattern? Thinking about swapping to a higher CRI LED in my Quark Mk III…

jon_slider · 2020-05-26T01:13:53.000Z

the higher CRI LED will be less “efficient”, inasmuch as it will produce less total lumens

CRI, and especially CRI R9 go up at least as much as lumens go down

imo, it is worth the trade.

now, depending what CCT you are interested in

there may be reasons to choose 219b over LH351d or SST-20
Im not sure yet, which I would prefer, have not tried the SST for example
I do like the Nichia more than the unsliced LH351d…

for my pink biases the LH351d needs to be sliced,
that also comes with a lumen penalty

BurningPlayd0h · 2020-05-26T02:35:54.000Z

buck91:

How does the LH351D 90cri compare to a nichia 319A (80cri) in terms of efficiency and beam pattern? Thinking about swapping to a higher CRI LED in my Quark Mk III…

If the die of the 319A is close to that of the 219C, the LH351D will be floodier but probably still have more output/be more efficient even binned at 90CRI. The LH351D has a die size right between the XP-L and XM-L2 IIRC.

BlueSwordM · 2020-05-26T02:49:52.000Z

It’s actually bigger on the LES vs the XP-L die.

buck91 · 2020-05-26T03:02:32.000Z

jon_slider:

the higher CRI LED will be less “efficient”, inasmuch as it will produce less total lumens

CRI, and especially CRI R9 go up at least as much as lumens go down

imo, it is worth the trade.

now, depending what CCT you are interested in

there may be reasons to choose 219b over LH351d or SST-20
Im not sure yet, which I would prefer, have not tried the SST for example
I do like the Nichia more than the unsliced LH351d…

for my pink biases the LH351d needs to be sliced,
that also comes with a lumen penalty

I’ve actually become quite fond of the 4000k sst-20 but I believe those would be even less efficient than the LH351D. I have a few lights with that and while the r9 does lack a bit it seems overall quite nice. I’d really like to keep this as bright as possible and the 319 is doing alright for now… just love my high cri options!