LH351D 90CRI Spectrum Tests

contactcr · 2020-08-01T17:43:11.000Z

Sari33:

contactcr:

Here is the Sofirn sourced 2700K LH351D

Very similar to the DigiKey one I tested but with a better price.

1Amp with Frosted TIR:

Would be interesting measure after slicing for know if DUV and CCT decrease at very low current.Cheers

Here it is sliced in a Sofirn C01S AAA small TIR on the “100 lumen” setting. Not exactly apples to apples but you can see lower DUV but not much change in CCT. I cant explain why that is, maybe LED tint variation but probably just the optic doing strange things. It’s not really meant for such a large die. There is also a little ambient light in room.

thefreeman · 2020-08-03T14:53:02.000Z

I emailed Digikey the other day to ask about some color bins, I didn’t ask for a lot because I doubted they would reply, I got the reply today :

SPHWHTL3DA0GF4WPN6 (2700K) : 798 pcs F2 W7 N2
SPHWHTL3DA0GF4UPP6 (3500K) : 759 pcs F2 U7 Q2
SPHWHTL3DA0GF4TPQ6 (4000K) : 481 pcs F2 T6 Q2

Not sure how this info is valuable though because we don’t know if the bin you tested last year were the same.

contactcr · 2020-08-03T21:33:27.000Z

The 2700k and 3500k were always the best ones so I’m not too surprised by this.

We have seen T6 be above bbl from other vendors so it seems like these squares if meaningful generally tend to be at the very top of the square/bin

Side note; CONGRATS on getting one of these mega distributors to answer this. Didn’t think it was possible.

If I can muster up the energy I’ll test my Convoy sourced 5700K 351D tonight or tomorrow. Don’t think we have seen one of these in the “wild” yet. I think these were from some stadium lighting so I suspect mega green but we’ll see…

moderator007 · 2020-08-04T05:49:17.000Z

Thanks for all your testing contactcr.
My favorite is the 3500k UPP6 from digikey sliced.

thefreeman · 2020-08-04T11:01:10.000Z

contactcr:

The 2700k and 3500k were always the best ones so I’m not too surprised by this.

We have seen T6 be above bbl from other vendors so it seems like these squares if meaningful generally tend to be at the very top of the square/bin

Side note; CONGRATS on getting one of these mega distributors to answer this. Didn’t think it was possible.

Yeah, plus with 4000K and up the middle of the quadrangles is raised above the BBL, probably to merge with daylight tint (~ 0.0030 duv), on the other hand, integrated duv should be slightly lower than measured at the spot (but maybe not that much with the frosted TIR you used).

I was doubtful they would bother to check for me yes, I got no reply for ~10 days so I though they ignored me.

If I can muster up the energy I’ll test my Convoy sourced 5700K 351D tonight or tomorrow. Don’t think we have seen one of these in the “wild” yet. I think these were from some stadium lighting so I suspect mega green but we’ll see…

Simon wrote the bins he got and it’s Q2 (5700K) and R2 (5000K) so the lower duv bins. I have some 5000K coming (not interested in 5700K) so I’ll see how they test. By the way I measured my FC11 and it’s actually worse than yours :
5170K (Duv 0.0086)
(Ra) = 87.6 [ R9 = 30.8 ]

It’s quite strange, not 90 Ra and low R9.

contactcr · 2020-08-04T17:42:14.000Z

Convoy Sourced LH351D 5700K 90CRI (bin: V2Q2S1)

Frosted TIR, same as before. The results are about what I expected. I purchased these mostly for two reasons: slicing and tint mixing. For both purposes they should be acceptable.

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DarkShot · 2020-08-04T19:02:57.000Z

Thanks for getting those tests done! No surprises there but at least some Lee filters could help with the slight green tint.

I’ve got some incoming to see what slicing will do. Hopefully it’ll produce similar results to sliced 5000k dogfarts.

id30209 · 2020-08-04T20:30:32.000Z

@contactr

Have you got a chance to grab KD’s 5700K emitters?

contactcr · 2020-08-04T21:55:44.000Z

id30209:

@contactr

Have you got a chance to grab KD’s 5700K emitters?

Nope, I can grab one though. Any other stuff at KD I should be getting?

id30209 · 2020-08-04T22:25:10.000Z

Actualy no. I was just curious how are their 5700K compared to the one you have. I had one installed in Novatac and it looks great. Not so “green and yellow”...

That’s why am puzzled.

contactcr · 2020-08-05T19:18:43.000Z

Here’s the Convoy 5700K sliced in Wurkkos FC11 (shallow light OP reflector, plain lens, on high):

Good for a day time use light since your eyes are adjusted to >5000K ambient above BBL light already.

id30209 · 2020-08-05T21:35:12.000Z

Not bad at all.

contactcr · 2020-08-15T16:05:56.000Z

If anyone is curious what these look like under a TIR with all the phosphor removed:

450nm and 25000K CCT (if that is even a thing, I guess it is technically.)

Unheard · 2020-08-15T19:00:30.000Z

Is this the color we saw on the first power LEDs? We all had those Ledlensers and fakes on our keychains. Stable fluorophores had yet to be found I guess. I remember, when I was in microscopy, fluorochroms had really little photon staticstics like 60000 for this green substance whose name I forgot. You could watch them fading. Or is this a completely different story?

contactcr · 2020-08-15T19:30:24.000Z

Unheard:

Is this the color we saw on the first power LEDs? We all had those Ledlensers and fakes on our keychains. Stable fluorophores had yet to be found I guess. I remember, when I was in microscopy, fluorochroms had really little photon staticstics like 60000 for this green substance whose name I forgot. You could watch them fading. Or is this a completely different story?

No it’s distinctly solid blue. More like a fake UV or “blacklight” I guess but very “visible”

UltraTac A7P w/ no phosphor LHD and Sofirn C01R

Unheard · 2020-08-15T19:59:57.000Z

A diy monochromatic blue LED. How did you get the phosphor off?

I think the old Ledlenser Photonenpumpe also was just blue.

contactcr · 2020-08-15T20:03:36.000Z

Unheard:

A diy monochromatic blue LED. How did you get the phosphor off?

I think the old Ledlenser Photonenpumpe also was just blue.

You know, the usual. Force it into a too small TIR with a mediocre centering ring and keep tightening. It ripped it off nicely in one piece and I scraped with tweezers what tiny little bit was left.

Sari33 · 2020-08-18T08:05:00.000Z

contactcr:

id30209:

@contactr

Have you got a chance to grab KD’s 5700K emitters?

Nope, I can grab one though. Any other stuff at KD I should be getting?

SST-20 JA3 2700K tested with differents type lens

thefreeman · 2020-08-21T15:32:37.000Z

contactcr:

Here it is sliced in a Sofirn C01S AAA small TIR on the “100 lumen” setting. Not exactly apples to apples but you can see lower DUV but not much change in CCT. I cant explain why that is, maybe LED tint variation but probably just the optic doing strange things. It’s not really meant for such a large die. There is also a little ambient light in room.

I sliced two Sofirn sourced 2700K and it lowered the CCT quite a bit :

CCT = 2369K (Duv –0.0014) (Ra) = 95.9 [ R9 = 72.9 ]

This is in a Sofirn IF25 at lowish output (2 LEDs at 50~100lm or something).

This is great because this is exactly what I wanted, a very warm 3535 LED with high CRI, which apparently doesn’t exist.

In the same flashlight (it’s a tint ramping light) I got Convoy sourced 5000K, also sliced :

CCT = 3877K (Duv –0.0004) 93.5 [ R9 = 60.2 ]

I’m surprised of how much the CCT was reduced compared to yours, in your FC11 it reduced to 4500K. In this case 4500K kind of was what I was aiming at for the max CCT in this light, I should probably have gone with the 5700K instead.

contactcr · 2020-08-21T15:08:54.000Z

The TIR in IF25 is quite a bit larger I think than the C01S and C01S is very low output so I suspect those 2 things can cause different results.

As far as the Convoy 5K goes did you measure it before the slice? I assume it’s under 5000K slightly since it’s R2 bin.