I just recieved my order from Iiion Wholesale today. Placed order last Sunday 06-10-2018 and arrived 06-15-2018. The price was $20.36 for 4x BUTTON Top Samsung INR18650-30Q 15A 3000mAh 18650 Battery - Genuine - Wholesale Discount with $3.77 shipping for USPS First Class Mail.
Yep, it’s silly but it is what it is. And yes I’m sure in rare cases they don’t go to a plane, but USPS still treats it as an air method so it doesn’t matter from our perspective, it’s still not allowed.
Yep, you ordered just ahead of it. We’ve been phasing in the pricing on the website. So you got the first class price. Unfortunately can’t do that anymore.
This may be somewhat off topic but the 30Q batteries I recieved from LIION Wholesale, internal resistance checks 15, 85, 115, 95 after deducting 30mohm for the charger. The weight was also a little light at 46.1 to 46.3 gr. They are being tested now but I will not see the results until tomorrow. Any suggestions ??
“RobertB” and ” atbglenn ” yes you are right, Just edited my earlier comment after reading the full description on the website. They add the button top and put on a clear wrapper on a flat top, so they are probably fine. The number of vents on these are irrelevant since they are stated as modified flat tops with their own button tops added. Still not sure about the internal resistance. You may want to edit your post as well, since I screwed up by not reading the description. Sorry about that, My Bad….
If you’re talking about the button top, we add that ourselves, that’s not Samsung. I believe we have a couple subtly different buttons that we add on that are all equivalent so it’s possible one may be 2 holes and one may be 3, I could check that on Monday as I’m not at the office now. I think they’re all supposed to be 2 vents. Also if you’re talking about the button top, we add a clear wrap over it to secure the button top. If you’re talking about flat top and not button, then please clarify what you’re referring to as vent holes.
It sounds like you’re using an Opus or one of its clones - these are notorious for having very unreliable IR readings. If you do multiple readings in a row, you’ll probably see different readings. I recommend kinda jiggling the battery in the contacts to clean off any residue on the contacts too and then redoing it, a few times. Getting different readings this way tells you it’s the charger. We’ve found the Opus is pretty useless for IR readings, the readings you’re getting sound exactly like what we typically get on an opus. They’re great for charging and capacity testing but not good for IR testing.
We test all our batches very carefully with a procedure way beyond any competitor including high and low power testing, IR and impedance testing, etc, so it’s extremely unlikely you would get any bad batteries. We’ve not had anyone get a counterfeit battery in our entire company’s history. We have had some rare cases of abuse by the shipping company on their way to you internally damaging the battery and causing it to rise significantly in IR, but that’s very rare. If that were to happen we’d replace them of course.
The technical definition is that the batteries have to power the device, and they say that it should be the equipment that the batteries are intended for. So chargers definitely don’t work. I definitely considered the battery holder with lead wires…that one is a grey area. I’m honestly pretty worried that people would hurt themselves though. And it would be a pretty tough sell if in the future sometime they actually did start enforcing this and questioned us about it. I feel like the fans and flashlights wouldn’t have this issue.
The cheap power bank option is one that we might do, but the cost I believe is a little more than the fans. And power banks have their own weird special regulations so I want to steer clear of that.
Right now the really tough thing to find is inexpensive devices for 18350s and 26650s.
14500’s are a funny one because I briefly considered sending a AA flashlight. A 14500 will totally power a typical AA flashlight….for about 2 seconds before the LED burns out ;). Obviously decided against it because I do want the gifts to have some value.
Thanks ” Jon-LiionWholesale ” for helping with that. I’m new here and make mistakes often, Sorry about that, I edited that earlier comment in hopes it would not be seen and hurt LIION Wholesales in any way, My Bad, I should have read the description fully. Also I was not aware of the OPUS BT C3100 v2 problem. You are correct, that is the one I have but maybe not for long. Do you have a suggestion for a reliable charger / tester ?
i am surprised there are no cheap 14500/16340/18350 plastic “tea lights” made primarily for shipping dummies.
a plastic box with a 5mm led and some minor parts.
in large qty these would cost a few pennies to make.
and could actually be useful in a power failure.
set a few of them around for just enough light to not stumble.
or mark it as a universal power emergency light and use a simple slider type holder.
a legitimate but ultra cheap item.
No charger does IR that well because of the way the spring contacts work and how variable the resistance is in the spring contacts. Not to mention that it takes its own dedicated circuitry. You need a more dedicated IR tester if you really want IR. We actually do sell one that is just as accurate as our much more expensive industrial equipment that isn’t super expensive, here: Vapcell YR1030 Internal Resistance Tester KIT – Liion Wholesale Batteries
Honestly though I think the Opus is great for someone who just wants to make sure their batteries are still putting out plenty of life. As I mentioned, the capacity test part of it is great. I think IR is overkill for most.
