Looking for Royal Blue LED suitable as thrower

Dropped a Cree XT-E Royal Blue D46 300LM 455nm LED in a C8 host today. Absolutely the most beautiful rich royal blue color I have ever seen and want to take it a step further now with a more focused beam. Anyone know of another 455nm LED that would tend to have a more focused beam when put in a C8? Also would be nice if it was as bright as the XT-E that I have now. The XT-E/C8 combo does throw pretty good, just want to know if I can do better or not or maybe use a different host with optics of some sort.

Here's a pic of the xte-455nm color. My camera can't pick up the blue in the hot spot but picks up the blue everywhere else pretty good. It's really a very deep rich RB.

CSLNM1.14 ?

Nice find thanks! Just found it on a 20mm star that will fit a C8. Max.forward current is 3000mA and my XT-E is only 1000mA so it should be interesting how it shines.

Careful you don’t hit it with too much current, or it’ll turn blue and… oh, wait…

Hopefully it's going to be an awesome blue beam thrower!

Just noticed max lumens is 115 for the Osram. Not sure why it would need 3A to get only 115 lumens if my XT-E only needs 1A to get 300 lumens?

I believe they must have used a different meter to measure the lumens :partying_face:

Do the specs for the XT-E actually list lumens instead of mW for the royal blue version?

There are some posts in r/flashlight of the 115lm blue MC13 looking way too bright for a 115lm flashlight.

Hard to know for sure I think....afaik I only see the 300 lumens mentioned for the XT-E at fastech where I bought it on a 20mm star, but I never saw 300 lumens mentioned anywhere on the cree data sheet that I could see. I will say it is way brighter than I expected it to be and just looking at it, 300 lumens does seem on the low side.

As for the MC13, I'm guessing because of the optics it's probably really focusing the beam so that it looks way brighter than the 115 lumens would suggest too.

Also noticed the XT-E royal blue on fastech says max 1000mA but other sites say max is 1500mA. Anyone drive the XT-E RB to 1500mA without any problems? The driver I used from Simon was max 1000mA.

If you look at the datasheets, minimum flux for different bins, output (for royal blue LEDs) is always stated in mW, any conversion to lumens is not manufacturer responsibility. Small LEDs will have less output and typically more throw, large LEDs will have more output and typically less throw. Domeless LEDs like the Osram have higher throw for the same emitter area. The max current in the datasheet is always a conservative number.

LED Binning current Min bin (min flux) Max bin (min flux) approximated output at 1000mA Max recommended current by specs
XT-E 350mA 85C 550mW 675mW 250% 1500mA
XP-E2 350mA 25C 450mW 650mW 235% 1000mA
SST-10 350mA 25C, 20ms pulse 510mW 630mW 250% 1500mA
SST-20 350mA, 25C, 20ms pulse 630mW 790mW 250% 3000mA
CSLNM1.14 1000mA 25C? 900mW 1590mW 100% 3000mA

Nice chart thanks! Based on that info the Osram is way stronger so I just ordered it to see how it compares for fun.

It’s not really much more efficient, it just measured by the manufacturer at higher current, but it supports higher current and I think has smaller area than the XT-E and no dome, so throw should be significantly higher.

With the star it's pretty cheap and I have a spare C8 waiting to do mods so I can at least give it a try to compare. Will post back in this thread with some comparison pics once I get it. Just a toy as I like coloured lights, especially with Winter coming and lighting up the snow. Would be nice to try it on an L2 as well but I don't want to give out so much bucks for an L2 host at the moment.