Lumintop GT Mini (Thower) Beam shots and more!

JasonWW · 2018-12-09T13:46:02.000Z

mortuus:

okay but if not accurate i dont understand why post numbers that doesnt represent actual ?

As I said, take all lumen readings with a grain of salt. Nobody has “actual”. All of us here at BLF are just hobbiests. We are not testing labs. Some people might measure 1100 lm, some might measure 1600 lm. It depends on the device they measure with and how their device is calibrated.

Based on it drawing 5.5A on turbo and my TA Lumen Tube measuring 1240 lm, I would definitely say it meets or exceeds the factory 1200 lm rating. No worries about that. I also measured 148Kcd = 769m which is above the 135kcd spec. This is using a Samsung 30Q. Here are all my measurements if your interested.

(prototype) the GT Mini 18650 Flashlights

I got mine today in the USA so maybe the rest of the USA orders will show up soon. Here are my measurements from a stock CW GT Mini using a Samsung 30Q. Tail amps @30s using UT210E: Top of ramp - 2.85A Turbo - 5.5A Parasitic drain normal - 0.18mA Drain with switch led off- 0.02mA Candela @30s and 10 meters using LX1330B: GT Mini - 148kcd = 769m Convoy C8 xm-l2 CW - 39kcd = 395m Stock GT - 1.05mcd = 2,049m Lumens using Texas_Ace Lumen Tube calibrated from Maukka’s S2 plus CW: GT Mini: …

mortuus · 2018-12-09T13:58:47.000Z

Yes i understand, was just asking, i realize even cw maybe not topps 1300 lumens, its a nice light i really enjoy using mine.

komeko · 2018-12-09T14:20:50.000Z

Differences in measurements result from many reasons. Not only from the methodology but also from the differences between the various models. It can be affected by the ambient temperature, the battery used, the centering of the LED …
GTmini has a FET driver and the internal resistivity of the elements is very important here. The manufacturer gives 17W and 4.5A. My GTmini with Samsung 30Q received 5.8A (clamp meter). This is one of many possible reasons that the end result may vary. Measurements are made with the X-Rite Eye one Pro calibrator which is more accurate than most cheap light meters. Thanks to this, I can also precisely specify the color of light which in my opinion is one of the most important features. If someone thinks this is not very reliable, then he has such a right, but to call me a liar?

JasonWW · 2018-12-09T14:39:12.000Z

komeko:

Measurements are made with the X-Rite Eye one Pro calibrator which is more accurate than most cheap light meters. Thanks to this, I can also precisely specify the color of light which in my opinion is one of the most important features. If someone thinks this is not very reliable, then he has such a right, but to call me a liar?

I think Mortuus was just confused with 2 different lumen measurements. No big deal. Nobody is lying.

Tell me about the eye one Pro. Is it just for measuring color or does it also measure lumens?

komeko · 2018-12-09T14:44:19.000Z

JasonWW:

Tell me about the eye one Pro. Is it just for measuring color or does it also measure lumens?

This is a calibrator for monitors:
https://www.xrite.com/categories/calibration-profiling/i1display-pro

chadvone · 2018-12-09T18:32:59.000Z

Thank you very much komeko. This thing holds its own against my 5000K M2X mod.

I am very impressed with it.

Th558 · 2018-12-18T04:09:08.000Z

What size driver / MCPCB does this light use?

BlueSwordM · 2018-12-18T04:10:26.000Z

20mm MCPCB, 17mm driver.

Th558 · 2018-12-18T04:16:22.000Z

BlueSwordM:

20mm MCPCB, 17mm driver.

Thank you.

Th558 · 2018-12-18T04:32:12.000Z

It says it has a 4.5A FET driver. Does this mean direct drive or constant current. If I put an Osram KW 1mm in it will i need to replace the driver? and will it take an acebeam 3100 protected battery?

JasonWW · 2018-12-18T05:16:01.000Z

Th558:

It says it has a 4.5A FET driver. Does this mean direct drive or constant current. If I put an Osram KW 1mm in it will i need to replace the driver? and will it take an acebeam 3100 protected battery?

It’s a FET driver so the amperage it’s pulling will vary based on the battery and led.

It fit the longest cell I had which was 69.5mm.

Details are here.

JasonWW · 2018-12-18T09:14:37.000Z

Billy02:

Looking by the throw of your flash, i guess i can compare it to this one, i have used while camping and it really has a good throw plus it has a stun gun in case of an emergency, here have a look “Flash Light + Stun Gun”

You can post random links on this forum. You will get reported as a spammer.

Th558 · 2018-12-30T20:57:49.000Z

For some reason the switch on my sample was malfunctioning. It would not detect presses and sometimes it would detect two instead of one. I loosened the bezel a tiny bit and it’s working fine now. I also opened and closed the bezel yesterday so maybe that’s what caused the problem. Has anyone else experienced this?

Tom_E · 2018-12-30T22:06:00.000Z

Th558:

For some reason the switch on my sample was malfunctioning. It would not detect presses and sometimes it would detect two instead of one. I loosened the bezel a tiny bit and it’s working fine now. I also opened and closed the bezel yesterday so maybe that’s what caused the problem. Has anyone else experienced this?

The switch bezel? If so, sometimes the clearances on the wires solder pads is very tight - might have been a partial grounding on the exposed wires at the pads.

Th558 · 2018-12-30T22:49:11.000Z

I mean the head. I took the reflector out and put it back in. I didn’t tightness it more than it already was but it made the button/driver behave strangely for some reason. After loosening the bezel a bit it’s working fine.

klrman · 2018-12-30T23:27:08.000Z

Visually, how does the GT mini compare with a C8 XPL-Hi? Better, same?

BlueSwordM · 2018-12-30T23:33:10.000Z

Quite a bit better in terms of throw, and better UI with NarsilM.

It’s also smaller with a larger reflector.

klrman · 2018-12-30T23:38:16.000Z

Thanks BSM. Been thinking about getting one for awhile but still holding back as I have my V6 to play with still.

BlueSwordM · 2018-12-30T23:45:28.000Z

Don’t buy the GT Mini then. You’ve already got a super mini thrower like the V6.

Money not spent is money saved

JasonWW · 2018-12-30T23:51:38.000Z

klrman:

Thanks BSM. Been thinking about getting one for awhile but still holding back as I have my V6 to play with still.

A quick comparison.

The Catapult V6 is a:
Bigger light
Bigger led
Bigger hot spot
Bigger power (assuming it lives up to specs)
Bigger price
Same throw distance

The GT Mini should be very similar in performance to a FET driven C8 xpl-hi light. Of course, the interface and UI is going to be different.