One thing you will certainly get is outstanding run time. 64,000 mAh.
I ran it for 93 minutes and the voltage was 3.58. That was 15 to 20 Turbo runs, decent amount of time on 10,000 lumens and then 200 lumens to cool it down so I can return to turbo. I probably ran as much on 200 lumens as I did 10,000 lumens.
The turbo is advertised for 42 seconds. That is not true. It’s 24 seconds. In order to return to Turbo you have to turn it down so the fan can turn off. I take it down to the lowest setting of 200 lumens it takes maybe a minute before the fan turns off .
It would have been nice if they had a setting for 20,000 lumens. So it’s basically a 10,000 Lumen light with turbo burst.
Another thing about turbo. You can do a couple turbo runs in a row but it’s really not turbo. It will drop rapidly from 50,000 to 10,000 lumens in less than 15 seconds. That can be seen on the OLED Screen in Real time.So it can’t sustain turbo again until the light is cooled off. Which is understandable.
The X75 has better heat management with higher outputs sustained. When turbo steps down on that light, it maintains 17 to 20,000 lumens for several minutes.
I forget what the weight of the light is but it’s got to be 3 lb or more. But if you hold it near the top, which is the way to hold it when you want to switch modes, it’s not that bad.
The batteries for this light compared to the Mach silver are different. As you’ll see in the pictures. They’re 5 mm taller and a little less than a millimeter wider. Not only that the batteries for this V 3.0 have a positive end on top and negative end on the bottom. The smaller Silver Mach has negative and positive on the top. In fact every 46950 Battery I’ve seen is like that except for this the V 3.0
I went on a Flashaholic impulsive binge the last 10 days. I spent $1,000! About 400 on this light and then I bought the 80k Lumen version of the X75 plus another BP8 battery pack. I Justified it as being a birthday present for tomorrow.…"66"
I forgot to mention that sourcing the batteries may be an issue but I talked to this woman Kelly from Lumintop and she said they will sell each battery for $49. So that’s $98 for a pair. That’s cheaper than $180 for a BP8 battery pack for the X75. Or $140 for the BP4 battery pack.
They’re not listed on the website but I guess somehow they can ship them. Although they refuse to ship any batteries before unless they were in a flashlight ,so who knows.
I would think these batters got to last two or three years at least.
I figured out another step to get Turbo to run every time. It still takes a series of steps for that to happen.
1.So when it steps down from Turbo to high you can leave it there for a little while but it’s best to turn it on the lowest setting which is 200 lumens.
2.Wait till the fan turns off. This takes about 1 minute.
Then turn the light off and back on again. Then double click the turbo.
I think turning the light off and on again resets it. Because I’ve done the other steps without turning it off and sometimes it doesn’t go back to turbo.
Here’s the runtime I got today.
75 min.= ~ 25 to 30 turbo runs, 50% charge left on OLED when light is ON.
3.628V.
I don’t understand this and it’s strange. But when it’s put on the charger that percentage changes from 50% to 38%? Maybe the 38% is the actual capacity and that 50% is what’s left until low voltage comes on?
Awesome. So far, nobody’s tested the Mach 3, which is a very unique light. However highly doubtful you get 50k Lumens out of it. Maybe closer to 30K, maybe 40K at turn on (corrected Lumens). I get about 85% of the 26K advertised for the 46950 Mach and 3x21700 Mach and neither have regulated drivers. I don’t think the Mach 3 does either. Still a good amount. For the extra like $50, the X75 is a far superior flashlight and in no way would I buy the Mach 3 unless it was offered for 50% off. Even the Imalent MR90 is a better deal.
As far as those batteries, they’re longer because they are in series and have protection boards so they are arranged electrically like regular batteries. I think the cell balancing is handled by the batteries themselves and the driver, which works, but isn’t ideal. Plus, you’d have to replace them i pairs if one ever went bad.
I’m not sure how many lumens it is . I definitely say more than 30 K ,I would say 40 to 50,000 because it’s very very bright for those 24 seconds.
I’m too impulsive sometimes. Like I said I got this light and I just got my x75 today. The x75 is definitely a better light. I had it before and sold it. Doesn’t make that much sense! I sold it then I buy this light with batteries that are hard to source and then I buy another X75! ~$1,000 in less than 10 days.
close to $400 for the Mach v3.0 and the x75 is almost 400 plus the BP8 battery pack 180$:flashlight: good birthday presents for a flashaholic anything can be justified!
The two batteries are connected in series. That’s why their bottoms are exposed. This ensures that when they touch each other, the positive terminal of one is in contact with the negative terminal of the other. Regarding their length, they appear to be 46950 batteries with a protection circuit, unlike the other Lumintop 46950 models which lack this circuitry
Yes. Basically the same as a button top 18650, 21700 Etc with protection.
They are approximately 5 mm longer just under a millimeter wider. Out of curiosity, I tried putting one of them in my silver Mach and it wouldn’t fit. And when I put the silver Mach battery in the v3.0 it was too loose and rattled around. That’s just for fitment purposes you can never use the Silver Mach 49650 in the V3.0 because of the difference in polarity and how the cells are constructed.
No reason to start another threat cuz this involves this light. I would stay away from Lumintop 46950 lights. Particularly this one. They’ve gone back and forth on battery replacement and it ends up they won’t replace it. Something about logistics. And this is a proprietary battery they’re longer because they’re protected ,you can’t access them anywhere. You basically have a $400 light and when the batteries fail you’re screwed! At least with the single cell 49650 you can buy Replacements on AliExpress as long as the bottom is isolated.
Maybe something will change by the time these batteries die. If not, it will be thrown in the trash. I take responsibility because I never ever had a proprietary battery pack/ battery in my life until last year. I stayed away from them for 14 years. At least with the other proprietary battery packs the manufacturers will sell them so well battery junction, going gear Etc.
My chances of selling this light have just about diminished! I couldn’t sell to someone knowing this. I’m making others aware.
I forgot to mention that Lumintop is the worst manufacturer I ever dealt with. They keep feeding you all this customer service BS how sorry they are. But they don’t answer the question , why do they sell a light when they can’t replace the batteries?
Then they have the gall in that same email to promote a Father’s Day sale! Like I want to buy something else off these people!
This is how wishy-washy Lumintop is.
Her.name is Kelly.
First she says NO… international law must be in a flashlight. I gave her examples of Ace beam, Imalent Etc that ships battery packs After complaining.
Then she says YES, I could give you a special link.
Then she finds out I brought it off AliExpress and she says NO again, get it off of them. I said you manufactured the light it shouldn’t matter where I bought the light.
Then she says YES again! I could give you the link. And a couple hours ago she says NO, Logistics said they can’t send it. You talk about inconsistencies unbelievable
I understand the AliExpress part and it does matter who sold it. Example because this is what I deal with in the gun world. I make a gun that cost $400 to make so a sell it for $500 to the dealers who sell it for $600. Everyone make $100 off of our MAP. Now that Crazy Gun Dealer comes in and sells it for $525. My other dealers can’t sell an until they lower their price to match and everyone is only making $25 a sale so they quit selling my product. Manufacturing sales crash or have to make a smaller profit so sell for less to the dealers. MAP policies protect brand equity by preventing “race to the bottom” pricing wars that erode perceived value. Without MAP, mega-retailers can discount aggressively, forcing smaller independent stores to compete on unsustainable terms. And this is why the Crazy Gun Dealer out of Texas can’t by Glocks from Glock.
AliExpress will not sell me the batteries either. They keep giving that excuse that it has to be in a flashlight. How does ace beam sell their battery packs?Or Imalent? They are from china. It’s ridiculous. Manufacturer cannot replace the batteries the people you buy it off can’t replace it so when your batteries are dead throw away your flashlight!
I understand your gun example but I don’t see how that totally relates to this situation. These batteries are not a profit machine like your guns. How much can you make off a battery.? And no one is interested in replacing them. How can you sell a flashlight when no one provides replacement batteries? You think they have on your their website and Asterix there saying we cannot replace your batteries? Of course not. It would never make any money.
I believe it’s more of a China issue. I could buy an x75 off of battery Junction and then buy the battery from going gear. They’re not going to question that it’s not their flashlight. They will gladly sell you a replacement battery pack
Logistics with li-ion batteries is tricky. If a seller can prove the batteries will be in a protective environment (like in a flashlight or battery pack with all the safety stuff), then they can ship it overseas with the typical li-ion warning on the box. It just costs more and i think there’s a weight limit. Acebeam can sell the X75 packs because they’re exactly that…in a pack and not loose batteries.
Maybe it is tricky. But how have they sold Millions of Samsung, Panasonic Sony, Murata Etc how have they been able to ship those loose cells? All the cells we get are from China, Japan Korea Taiwan all the sudden we got a problem now with these 46950s. What bugs me the most is you buy the flashlight and then you can’t get the batteries and they don’t give a a flying you know what.
About 400 on this light and then I bought the 80k Lumen version of the X75 plus another BP8 battery pack. I Justified it as being a birthday present for tomorrow.
…"66"
good birthday presents for a flashaholic anything can be justified!