[M4D deal ACTIVE] Astrolux FT04 groupbuy $37.99!! (SST-40-P2 – 2500LM – 1000M Throw)

twisted_raven · 2019-07-05T15:14:02.000Z

Since when is an sst40 outputting 3000 lumens?

flightless22 · 2019-07-05T15:19:43.000Z

Wasn’t the FT04 announced back in 2018 way before the FT03?

M4D_M4X · 2019-07-05T15:28:54.000Z

FT04 =! MF04 ;)

has anyone tested a P2 bin yet?

I only found N bin numbers from last year

jericho0o · 2019-07-05T15:35:32.000Z

Interesting - lots of the new Astroluxes have a very Haikelite aesthetic to them… would be curious to see how this stacks up against the FT03 as the reflector sizes are the same per everydaysurvivalgear’s post

SKV89 · 2019-07-05T16:19:32.000Z

I’m excited for the P2 bin SST-40. The dedomed version was used in the Maxtoch Archer M1 that was same size as the D1S and GT Mini but out throws them. Will this be dedomed?

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32952202673.html?storeId=314381&spm=a2g1y.12024536.productList_11606188.pic_5

Also why did HL decide to use a proprietary charger instead of USB. That is a deal breaker for me.

SKY69 · 2019-07-05T18:30:40.000Z

interested

AlexGT · 2019-07-05T18:37:36.000Z

Does the P2 Bin really delivers 3000 lm? WOW! Would love to see confirmation.

BlueSwordM · 2019-07-05T19:02:01.000Z

No, not really.

The absolute highest you can get from it in a light is around 2500-2800 lumens:

ZeroAir Reviews – 10 Apr 19

Amutorch TC500 (New) Flashlight Review - ZeroAir Reviews

The Amutorch TC500 (New) flashlight is a 21700 based thrower, which can reach 900m and runs a single Luminus SST-40. Read on!

Est. reading time: 11 minutes

Dioda · 2019-07-05T19:39:44.000Z

The lack of a e s t h e t i c s makes me skip this deal. Haikelite needs to work this part out, their designs are imho not very appealing. Like the recent model with blue bezel and that bling blang golden switch

hIKARInoob · 2019-07-05T21:19:17.000Z

Dioda:

The lack of a e s t h e t i c s makes me skip this deal. Haikelite needs to work this part out, their designs are imho not very appealing. Like the recent model with blue bezel and that bling blang golden switch :confounded:

Feel the same way. Everything after the SC26 is just meh to me.

JasonWW · 2019-07-06T02:33:29.000Z

BlueSwordM:

No, not really.

The absolute highest you can get from it in a light is around 2500-2800 lumens:
Amutorch TC500 (New) Flashlight Review - ZeroAir Reviews

I would be skeptical of those measurements because we have no idea how his pvc tube was calibrated. This is an important bit of info.

JasonWW · 2019-07-06T02:39:54.000Z

SKV89:

Also why did HL decide to use a proprietary charger instead of USB.

It looks like the charger that the Convoy BD series lights use. A plus is that it’s waterproof, a minus is it’s easy to loose the adaptor. Kind of an odd choice.

BlueSwordM · 2019-07-06T02:40:33.000Z

I mean, bare LED output could reach 3000 lumens,

The P2 SST-40 has on average 13% higher luminosity.

And looking at koef’s test:

LED test / review – Luminus SST-40-W Specialty White N4 BA (+ dedomed) – Here it is, the next gen XM-L2! Flashlight Modding and DIY Parts

LED-Test EN Luminus SST-40-W Specialty White LED SST-40-CW-A120 UPDATE --- 06/23/18 --- raw data added! (link) This is the english version of my first test (August 2017). Because of more accurate results and some minor changes in the text the german version is no longer valid anymore! I bought this emitter at Kaidomain several months ago. Technical data Tj 85 °C, If 700 mA Order code: SST-40-CW-A120 (unless otherwise specified) Type: single…

With a 13% improvement, 3000 lumen output from a bare LED would be possible, and at 90% efficiency optical efficiency, 2700 lumens on turn on would be possible.

JasonWW · 2019-07-06T06:34:25.000Z

No flashlight is 90% efficient. I use 75% as a general average. I also don’t count the lumens you see for a split second on the meter right at turn on. Doing so just confuses people. I try to give more of an ANSI FL1 type reading. (Certain lights don’t last 30 seconds, so I might do a 15-20 second measurement) I think the FL1 specs are a more fair and realistic measurement that people can relate to.

M4D_M4X · 2019-07-06T07:19:18.000Z

I try for years now to convince the manufacturers to use "peak power" and "continuous power"

firedome · 2019-07-06T08:48:40.000Z

interested, please send me a PM

djozz · 2019-07-06T08:53:14.000Z

I’m confident if you measure OTF, at 30 seconds, and with an honest calibration, this light does not get past 2500 lumen.

mortuus · 2019-07-07T12:40:33.000Z

djozz:

I’m confident if you measure OTF, at 30 seconds, and with an honest calibration, this light does not get past 2500 lumen.

then its wrong to make people believe it does 3000 lumens, why not put and use honest lumens instead? this is better…

rizky_p · 2019-07-07T18:33:37.000Z

hIKARInoob:

Feel the same way. Everything after the SC26 is just meh to me.

my thought exactly. SC26 is my last Haikelite until something interesting that is.

JasonWW · 2019-07-07T20:28:22.000Z

mortuus:

djozz:

I’m confident if you measure OTF, at 30 seconds, and with an honest calibration, this light does not get past 2500 lumen.

then its wrong to make people believe it does 3000 lumens, why not put and use honest lumens instead? this is better…

They probably sell more units by exaggerating the output. Common business practice, especially in China. Nothing new.