Many interesting flashlights at DX today. Oleeee

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This http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.50121?Utm_rid=43033281&Utm_source=affiliate UltraFire K41 Flood To Trhow 1xAA 3 mode. Interesting and cheap

And those many with same body, same specs, side switch but different battery configurations. Cheap enough to have a try.

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.50170?Utm_rid=43033281&Utm_source=affiliate

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.50171?Utm_rid=43033281&Utm_source=affiliate

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.50172?Utm_rid=43033281&Utm_source=affiliate


This declares 800 lumens with a Q3? But is aRECOIL thrower. Another one. this time cheap!

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.50104?Utm_rid=43033281&Utm_source=affiliate

Pity about the old LEDs in them but they are cheap enough....

Q3 is the most used CREE led today among the ultracheap ones... however Q3 is enough for me to use it with AA, AAA.... in short, small flashlights

ABOUT THE SIPIK flaslights above. This is taken from DX forums. Undefined wrote:

"I already got this one (from a different vendor). It has a tripod thread on the opposite side of the clicky (you can see it in pic #6).

+ voltage range actually is 0.7V-4.2V, at least that's what the Sipik homepage says and mine works well within that range.
+ thick walls and very nice anodized threads, feels very robust.
+ Sipik is a sub brand of tank007!
+ tripod usage works as expected
+ tailstands perfectly
+ the beam isn't totally clean but the hotspot is smaller than AA lights usually are, the reflector is rather deep!

o The modes work ok, it has 3-4 seconds next mode memory, after that it starts on high. Works for me.

- no o-ring on the front
- this is the first light I ever encountered where I have no clue how to get the driver pill out without doing any damage. Maybe it is fixated by the tripod thread? Any hints please?
- inner diameter lacks only ~0.5mm to accept 16340s or similar. Could be bored out though.


It's the biggest AA light I own. Quite a deal for that low money I think! "

In most AAA lights, heat and power supply issues mean that the LED is far from the limiting factor. There are only so many milliamps an AAA sized cell can supply for much time. Realistically around 100 lumens is your lot if you don't want to kill off 10440s in five minutes.

Certainly, none of my 10440 capable lights will give you much over ten minutes on high if they don't melt themselves, the driver or the LED first.

AAs - at least with 14500 can do a lot better.

I agree.

The side-button Sipik AA looks really cool, I'm wondering just how similar it is to the Tank007 version?

Undefined wrote at DX

" Sipik is a sub brand of tank007!"

I'm not sure I'd take that as trustworthy information.

Hmm, have a look at the following two pictures:

http://i04.c.aliimg.com/img/ibank/2010/175/590/184095571_1700898755.jpg

http://www.tank007.com/admin/ewebeditor/UploadFile/2009911132729394.jpg

Coincidence? Sipik does have a TK-xxx range, too btw.

I understand what you're driving at, I'm just unsure if comparison between model looks is reliable in determining ownership. If the Chinese are good at anything, it's copying the looks of other manufacturers products even if the functionality isn't quite the same. I mean, it even happens among the Chinese brands - look how many Xfire copies there are of the Akoray K-106.

Are you sure? :P

I wasn't comparing the models, but the way the product images are designed. In case you didn't know about the models:

http://www.tank007.com/admin/ewebeditor/UploadFile/2009816121446656.jpg

Solarforce, Xtar, Fenix and Sunwayman all use extremely similar designs as well.

Edit: After looking at the images more, I would actually say that Sipik and Tank007 are copying Fenix's image style.

Oh well, touché! :)

Well, I reckon some people would claim that Fenix was guilty of, erm, borrowing from 4sevens. ;) I'm not even sure how the whole LD05 thing played out because, frankly, I sort of stopped caring but I remember thinking "I can see why they'd be pissed" when I saw the first pictures.

I can now see the relation between tank007 and sipik. They carry a very similar line of lights on KD:

eg. http://www.kaidomain.com/ProductDetails.aspx?ProductId=9433

I always tought sipik was associated with romisen. I remeber once visiting the romisen factory page and sipik was mentioned.

willing to bet they aren't even close to the same lights ...i won't say that they are made by the same company or group of companies .

*** look at the weight difference between the two 18650's the one at kaidomain is 11 ounces ... the dx sipick version is 2 ounces ... maybe that's why they call them tanks ..

tank:::::> 18650 version

Dimensions:4.685in(L)x0.91in(Head D) 12cm(L)x2.3cm(D)

Weight:151G (excluding battery)

the Sipik off DX::::> SIPIK HK21>>>

Dimensions: 4.72 in x 0.87 in x 0.87 in (12.0 cm x 2.2 cm x 2.2 cm)
Weight: 2.05 oz (58 g)


Three times heavier ..Makes perfect sense to me ..looks alike ..ain't even close

But i have tanks and small suns and while they look like they share similar designs.. That's where it ends ..Oh yeah the small sun boxes have tanks on them ..I think it's the same company or cluster of companies ..But the threads on my tanks are tough as nails smooth like butter and perfect..the small sun feels like pot metal .It's like a coin toss if you're gonna cross thread or not and it's a 1/4 turn at best ...I actually like the suckers they just are junky and feel cheap..Small sun zy-c55 bright even on a lame AA, it takes a cr123 if you take out the small adapter ,,designed well just bad threads and that stupid star on the tail ....Everyone is a copy artist in china ...not many do it well ..seems like all lights in china just go from good to worse and worse .

Thanks Fran for the product tips!

The Ultrafire K41 could be a good low-price champion for a 1xAA light with multiple modes. But it looks like it can't tailstand, which puts me off a bit. This design looks strikingly similar to this EDI-T E25-AA flashlight. Pity it doesn't have a low mode.

The Sipik HK22 looks a bit big, and I haven't bought any lights yet with a side button. But the price is right. And it looks like it should definitely be a tailstandable design, since there is no tailswitch.

The K41 looks practically similar to UltraFire U20. Zooming lights in AA size with multimode function is rare to see