Massive fraud on 18650s in the Littokala Aliexpress stores!

BlueSwordM · 2018-11-18T03:16:55.000Z

Yeah. I didn’t actually mean all of their products though. Their chargers are good.

teacher · 2018-11-19T08:44:01.000Z

All this talk about Liitokala has got my curiosity up.

I have found two different websites & two different stores on AliExpress. They are listed below.

Has anyone found any other “Littokala Stores” besides the two I have listed below??

LiitoKala Official Flagship Store [Store #133859]
Lager

Liitokala Official Store [Store #217753]
https://m.aliexpress.com/store/activities/seller/storeHomeFromAms.htm?storeNo=217753&sellerAdminSeq=202339875#/
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These are the two different websites I found:

http://liitokala.com.cn/

http://www.liito-kala.com/

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Below is some of the info & contact info that came from the websites:

Liitokala Power Company

liitokala.com.cn

LiitoKala-LiitoKala Power CO.,LTD - becoming one of the biggest success...

LiitoKala Power Co., Ltd is a high-tech enterprise specializing in the research and sales of solar energy application product technology, automotive electronics technology, digital technology, and electronic application products.

ShenZhen LiitoKala Power Co.,LTD（ShenZhen charger factory)
Add: The 6F building 1,MaoBang industrial Area,No.8 Lingwu Industrial Road Junzibu, GuanLan Town,Baoan District,Shenzhen City,Guangdong,518110,China
Contact: Ashley zhang
TEL: +86 13760394452
website: www.liitokala.com.cn
Email : sales@liitokala.com.cn
Office hours: (HK Time) Mon – Sat: 9:00am – 22:00pm

LiitoKala Power Co.,LTD（DongGuan battery factory)
Add: No.38 Changsheng Road, Tiantangwei, Fenggang Town, Dongguan City, Guangdong,523690,China
website: www.liitokala.com.cn
Contact: ZhangNi
TEL: +86 13760394452
Email and Skype : liitokala@126.com
Office hours: (HK Time) Mon – Sat: 9:00am – 22:00pm

HongKong LiitoKala Power Co.,LTD（Hong Kong office)
Add: room 01,21/F,Prosper Commercial Building,9 Yin Chong Street,KowLoon,H.K
website: www.liitokala.com.cn
Contact: Cherleen
TEL: +86 13760394452
Email : liitokala@126.com
Office hours: (HK Time) Mon – Sat: 9:00am – 22:00pm
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LiitoKala belonging to shenzhen XinShengLi power co., LTD

liito-kala.com

LiitoKala-深圳市鑫盛力电源有限公司

LiitoKala is from China and is the most technologically innovative brand in the battery charger industry. The Lii-500 charger is still one of the most popular chargers on the market. Its products have passed CE, ROHS, FCC and many other...

Add: 6th Floor,Ling wu industral Road 8 D,Shenzhen Guanlan Junzhibu,Guangdong province,518110,China
Tel: +86-13417331508

Email:emily@liito-kala.com
Office hours: (HK Time) Mon – Fri : 9:00am – 6:00pm
Purchase link:
https://liitokala.aliexpress.com

LiitoKala Official Flagship Store [Store #133859] Lager

(from http://www.liito-kala.com/ )
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Liitokala Official Store [Store #217753]

m.aliexpress.com

Lager

Mobile Online Shopping for Apparel, Phones, Computers, Electronics, Fashion and more from China; Shopping on AliExpress from mobile site, the world's online marketplace!

teacher · 2018-11-19T15:19:33.000Z

I found another one….

Liitokala Direct Store [Store #1823237)

m.aliexpress.com

Lager

Mobile Online Shopping for Apparel, Phones, Computers, Electronics, Fashion and more from China; Shopping on AliExpress from mobile site, the world's online marketplace!

Barkuti · 2018-11-19T15:44:36.000Z

As I've said other times, AliExpress sellers can change their store names anytime. Clearest example I can show you is store number 1721160. I can recall it being named Colaier Direct Sales Store, then AM battery Store, later it was LiitoKala 0ficcial Store (notice the 0 :-D instead of an O) and as you can see it now is Charger Battery Store. Suffice to say it is run by a crook.

Cheers ^:)

Meelo · 2018-11-29T05:27:03.000Z

korkfoto:

Meelo:

Settled for 192 led, the estimated shipping is conservative, final shipping to the US for me was $1.94, -$1 new user discount, final price $23.53

So thanks for the deal! hope this one actually ships

9 days since I ordered something from 192led and no sign of the tracking number…

Ok, after forgetting about it a while, its been two weeks and the tracking number is not active. The contact page promising 24 hour response does nothing, tried several times, and the live chat never works.

This is just a fraud site, guess add 192led to the list, have to file a paypal dispute now. Thought people recommending things in this thread had actually used the stores before, guess not.

maukka · 2018-11-29T05:56:47.000Z

Zeroair tested one variation of these “30Q” Liitokalas from Aliexpress.

Spoiler: was not Samsung 30Q. Good capacity, useless in high current applications.

teacher · 2018-11-30T11:59:29.000Z

/\ …… Thanks for sharing that info & link maukka. .

Unloco · 2018-11-30T20:17:44.000Z

maukka:

Zeroair tested one variation of these “30Q” Liitokalas from Aliexpress.

Spoiler: was not Samsung 30Q. Good capacity, useless in high current applications.

Today I received an order of 12 30Q for $ 34.22.
Possibly they are the same ones that tested Zeroair.

First tests.

- four leg positive terminal.

- between 3.73 and 3.90V.

between 45.6 and 46.3g.

I would have been surprised if I had received legit cells.
I will update…

BlueSwordM · 2018-11-30T20:50:36.000Z

Yeah, I don’t like zeroair’s conclusions.

He should have said not to buy these cells at all. I don’t give money to fraudsters like the folks at Liitokala.

Four positive terminals means it’s a no go.

And why is there a 0,17V difference between cells? That’s not good…

RobertB · 2018-11-30T20:58:03.000Z

maukka:

Zeroair tested one variation of these “30Q” Liitokalas from Aliexpress.

Spoiler: was not Samsung 30Q. Good capacity, useless in high current applications.

Good chance they are LGF1 3350mAh 4.8A cells. Looks just like them, 4 posts and all. The LGF1 is commonly used in powerbanks and various battery packs. In bulk, they cost well under a dollar each.

BlueSwordM · 2018-11-30T21:03:09.000Z

@RobertB, it’s an LG F1L.

However, there have been reports of cells leaking, having extremely high internal resistance, high self discharge(3 months!), etc.

I would not risk it.

RobertB · 2018-11-30T21:06:44.000Z

GreenLights:

These are the cells I got and are 100% FAKE. At the time of order, the brand was listed as Panasonic. Since then they have changed the brand to LiitoKala, so you can’t dispute that you didn’t get genuine Panasonics.
8.19€ 49% OFF|Liitokala 18650 batterie original NCR18650B 3,7 V 3400 mah lithium batterie für taschenlampe batterie|liitokala 18650|battery 1865018650 rechargeable battery - AliExpress

You can still dispute it. NCR18650B is Panasonic’s part number and nobody else’s. And the listing says “Original”

RobertB · 2018-11-30T21:14:42.000Z

BlueSwordM:

@RobertB, it’s an LG F1L.

However, there have been reports of cells leaking, having extremely high internal resistance, high self discharge(3 months!), etc.

I would not risk it.

I know what it is, I have several of them from a powerbank. Haven’t heard or seen those reports

using that @xxx, doesn’t page anyone.

BlueSwordM · 2018-11-30T21:08:39.000Z

Sorry, just wanted to precise it’s an F1L, not F1. Might have been a bit too precise :\

RobertB · 2018-11-30T21:13:45.000Z

[quote=BlueSwordM]
Sorry, just wanted to precise it’s an F1L, not F1. Might have been a bit too precise :\/quote]

If you want to get real precise call it a LGABF1L. In the mean time, I’ll call it an LG-F1

BurningPlayd0h · 2018-11-30T21:21:16.000Z

Those F1s are apparently really cheap in bulk too. I can imagine it would be pretty profitable to re-wrap and sell some for certain shady dealers…

SIGShooter · 2018-11-30T21:31:44.000Z

If they just market the cells as what they really are then there would be no problems and probably have a lot of happy customers. They appear to be way better than xxxFires and also suitable for low drain applications. Then again almost anything is better than xxxFires, excluding Windyfire and maybe a few others.

BurningPlayd0h · 2018-12-01T06:14:51.000Z

SIGShooter:

If they just market the cells as what they really are then there would be no problems and probably have a lot of happy customers. They appear to be way better than xxxFires and also suitable for low drain applications. Then again almost anything is better than xxxFires, excluding Windyfire and maybe a few others.

They can do it this way and make way more profit without facing consequences. Honestly the majority of their customers probably don’t even know (or want to know) that the cells they received are counterfeit.

Coman · 2018-12-08T22:38:22.000Z

Until now, I only bought from aliexpress from all the liitokala stores.

- 6 pieces 26650 black liitokala (very good)

More than 20 pieces 18650 (Panasonic 3400mah cells, samsung 2600mah)
-I have to get home and 2 pieces LG 3000mah.

Until now, I had no problems. XHP70 does not work with turbo mode when using Panasonic 3400mah, but when using samsung 2600mah it works

Unfortunately, we received 5 liotokala (panasonic) 3400mah batteries with PCB, and one of them fired in the charger.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4PCS-LOT-Original-18650-NCR18650B-3-6V-3400mAh-Rechargeable-Li-ion-Protected-Batteries-with-PCB-For/32304934813.html?spm=2114.13010708.0.0.3a994c4dM6iWBD

See the last one star review. I also put pictures.

BlueSwordM · 2018-12-08T22:49:51.000Z

When did you submit the original review?

I can’t see which one it is.