Massive post on where to get lithium-ion batteries everywhere in the world! Look at Post 2-5 for info, And Canada Post 123

PiercingTheDarkness · 2018-12-02T10:40:49.000Z

wolfdog1226:

Thanks for the thread BSM.

Liionwholsale is my hometown dealer. 0.9 miles away! Jon, the owner lives across the street from me. Their customer service can not be beat, prices are great and it is SO convenient for me,plus NO SHIPPING!

Seriously? I’ve messaged Lionwholesale and they never emailed back regarding if they ship to New Zealand for a bulk order

korkfoto · 2018-12-02T11:19:15.000Z

Barkuti:

korkfoto:

192led is very shady. They never reply to e-mails, provided inexistent tracking number. I filed a complaint to paypal.
Maybe is best not to advertise them anymore.

The actual problem here is PayPal’s mandatory shipment tracking number policy. Tracked shipping is more expensive than untracked, and when margins are super tight that can be the difference between sales profits or not.

Your complaint is thus not due. I mean, you should revoke it and at the very least wait a couple months before submitting the first moaning gestures. Of course this is just my point of view.

Years ago this was no issue. Now if you shop on eBay it becomes clear super quick, or do you expect tracked shipments for less than $1 items? LoL!

Cheers :partying_face:

I expect them to answer to e-mails/messages. You know, at least the usual bullshit messages delivered by the unscrupulous Chinese sellers trying to convince you to drop the dispute.
And they don’t have a support/ticketing system.

wolfdog1226 · 2018-12-07T15:57:15.000Z

Funtastic:

wolfdog1226:

Thanks for the thread BSM.

Liionwholsale is my hometown dealer. 0.9 miles away! Jon, the owner lives across the street from me. Their customer service can not be beat, prices are great and it is SO convenient for me,plus NO SHIPPING!

Seriously? I’ve messaged Lionwholesale and they never emailed back regarding if they ship to New Zealand for a bulk order

Almost certain they state on their website that they do NOT ship overseas.

BlueSwordM · 2018-12-07T21:36:07.000Z

They do ship… if you can actually pay for it

MichielSanders · 2018-12-07T22:06:51.000Z

batterijservice.nl

Batterijservice - Batteries and chargers

We provide a wide branche batteries abd chargers. Over 25 years experience!

Ships to europe and UK

BlueSwordM · 2018-12-17T21:10:48.000Z

Soooo, UPDATE

I finally received my 18650s from the Aliya Battery Store: https://www.aliexpress.com/store/1382210?spm=2114.12010612.0.0.7a5b23dbkNLBYu

And I can say that they are truly genuine, and arrived on time to Canada!

Proofs and pictures of legitimacy:

1. They all weigh the same, around 45,9g and 47,2g.

2. The NCR18650GAs have the protruding flat top, and the Samsung 30Qs have a 3 pole positive terminal. No problem there.

3. The voltage of all 30Qs is 3,41V, and 3,51V for the NCR18650GAs. So, conform to shipping regulations.

Capacities will be tested later this week, along with internal resistance.

Light_Years · 2018-12-18T03:40:02.000Z

@BlueSwordM

I ordered a day after you did and also received my order today. Interesting that the sender’s address is in Greensboro, NC, USA. Not that it really matters but it seems that Aliya is using an intermediary (?) address in the US that later ships to Canada through USPS. No big deal as long as the cells are genuine, which seem to be the case.

BlueSwordM · 2018-12-18T03:44:27.000Z

Ahhh, so that was why there was a DHL Packet sticker and a USPS note.

Thank you

What cells did you order?

Light_Years · 2018-12-18T03:57:57.000Z

BlueSwordM:

Ahhh, so that was why there was a DHL Packet sticker and a USPS note.

Thank you

What cells did you order?

6x 30Qs and 6x VTC6s. These are my first VTC6s so I cannot compare, but the 30Qs physically look the same as the others I got from BG in the past (haven’t done testing yet).

Essexman · 2018-12-18T08:38:44.000Z

I used these guys in the UK last week

EcoLux: http://www.ecoluxshopdirect.co.uk/

All good, no problems.

BlueSwordM · 2018-12-19T01:54:47.000Z

So, now, some capacity tests!

I’m using my own battery holder with my own large Beryllium Copper spring, which allows accurate capacity testing up to 3A without a 4 wire method.

-I first started testing the NCR18650GA at 2A current, with a charge voltage of 4,185V and ending voltage of 2,6V.

Capacity at 2,6V, being 3308mAh.

Energy at 2,6V, being 11,56Wh.

Capacity at 2,8V to compare with HKJ.

Nothing checks out, so I can confidently say NCR18650GAs from the Aliya Battery Store are legit

-For the Samsung 30Q, it has been tested at 3A, with an ending voltage of 2,6V and charge voltage of 4,191V.

Capacity at 2,6V, being 2963mAh.

Energy at 2,6V, being 10,28Wh.

Capacity at 2,8V, being 2865mAh.

Energy at 2,8V, being 10,05Wh.

With the tests in mind, I can confidently say that the Samsung 30Q from Aliya Battery Store is legitimate

To end on a final note, my results are quite precise, with good accuracy, but on each of the tests, I did not account for the voltage drop of 0,05V during the tests because of the XT60 connectors and wiring, which may slightly have affected energy tests due to lower overall voltage on discharge.

Therefore, all batteries from the Aliya Battery Store, as of December 2018, are all considered legitimate, can be ordered from the link below:

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/1382210

erlebo · 2018-12-19T02:19:42.000Z

BlueSwordM:

The NCR18650GAs have the protruding flat top

Can these cells be used where button tops are specified?

BlueSwordM · 2018-12-19T02:33:44.000Z

In most cases, yes.

But not all cases are positive. Still better than other flat tops though.

Pavlo · 2018-12-19T03:02:58.000Z

Too bad they don’t sell button tops.

@BlueSwordM, do you know if these raised flat tops would work in a Meteor M43 or the 26650 in a DQG Tiny 26650?

Thanks for all the info and testing.

BlueSwordM · 2018-12-19T03:15:46.000Z

The raised flat tops NCR18650GAs work in my BLF Q8, so it would work in the Meteor M43.

Pavlo · 2018-12-19T04:01:05.000Z

Awesome, thanks!

Zulumoose · 2018-12-19T07:24:25.000Z

Struggling to find any reliable store to ship to South Africa since Banggood stopped again.
I now have more flashlights/powerbanks than batteries, a sad state of affairs.
I have tried all the recommended international ones in this thread, no luck so far.
Anyone have any ideas?

ZoomieFan · 2018-12-19T08:20:07.000Z

G-R-E-A-T T-H-R-E-A-D

BlueSwordM · 2019-05-17T02:38:49.000Z

INTERNAL RESISTANCE TESTING FOR THE SAMSUNG 30Q

Here is a chart with some DC internal resistance values.

The 30Q has 21mOhms of internal resistance according to this graph.

And with my measurement, a minimum measured DC internal resistance of 21mOhm!

Right on spec! Actually, better than most 30Qs.

I can therefore say again, that the 30Q from the Aliya Battery Store is a legit cell.

So, for Canadians all around the country, you can be assured to get legitimate cells from Aliya’s Battery Store. It does take about a month, so not too bad from China at all:

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/1382210

ZoomieFan · 2019-01-09T13:21:34.000Z

BlueSwordM:

I can therefore say again, that the 30Q from the Aliya Battery Store is a legit cell.

Very useful information.
Can you edit the first post in this thread and mark the verified stores with for example “Legit”?