My Roche F12 isn't waterproof

Hi!

I didn’t find any information on using Roche F12 underwater in the topics about this flashlight. I bought mine from FastTech (black, 2,8 A, 3/5 modes). They sell it as waterproof according to IPX8. I know, that swimming with this light could be a little abusive, but i tested it by submerging in water (about 10-20 cm) for one minute. There was some water inside after this test (threads and o-rings look OK). I also suspect some leakage in the head, but I’m not going to continue holding under water non-waterproof light to confirm this.

I checked opinions on F12 before buying. Feedback was pointing to good quality (including threads, machining). It’s hard for me to compare the quality, but it looks nice - no complains. Good opinions made me to suspect, that the IPX8 may be legit. I didn’t expect it to be OK at 2 m underwater for longer time, but at least 0,5 m…

I already contacted FT. Anyway, I’m not sure yet what to do with my Roche F12. I found one thread about leakage in head on a Russian forum. It would be nice to know, if I’m only one with such problem. Did anyone here test, if his (her) F12 is waterproof?

i dont what Roche F12 is, but FT could easily fix the situation by editing the product webpage description to something lower than IPX-8 or drop the claim/specification/rating altogether and you guys would still have bought the light. it's a budget light and i doubt that the folks who are behind the label "Roche" know the details of IPX-8 rating and testing.

The FL-1 is a 9+14 pages long document, see TOC at:

http://www.nema.org/Standards/ComplimentaryDocuments/FL-1-2009-final.pdf

And it costs 67US$ plus taxes:

Sorry for doubting. But i only trust Fenix. And Wallbuys.

:D

The F12 is a nice quality budget light that can be had for around $20. Regardless of description I wouldn’t trust any budget light to hold true to every specification and certainly wouldn’t intentionally take it for a swim. If you’ve bought it with the expectation that you can take it swimming then you’re expectations are too high, this is a cheap budget light from a chinese vendor. Stick to premium brand lights like olight, nitecore, fenix etc if this is what you want.

How do they know how far yopu submerged your light ?

use thicker Orings, lubricate them and threads (all of them, even the bezel/head on) with silicone grease and test again :slight_smile: very cold water and hot torch is bad because it sucks the water inside
and don’t trust chinese specifications :smiley: use only “dive” lights for swimming and if you’re going diving use backup lights

Waterproof? With a switch like that???

Thanks for the replies!

FT forwarded my report to the supplier. I made some photos of “testing” and it was enough (it would be nice to communicate that easy with my national suppliers). I suppose, they will explain the problem and probably update the description. They also offered me a discount, what I consider as appropriate reaction.

I’m not diving, but I used Fenix lights for swimming and it was a lot of fun. Real diving lights are bigger and thus less convenient for just swimming. Roche F12 is a cheap, small and bright tube - it’s worth buying even as only rainproof. I expected more (description and reviews mentioned good build quality), but (as you say) there is no better alternative in the same price range.