It will be used on a gun and needs green tint for hunting game.
How about regular c8 with green xre swap?
We're running a sale on the Nitecore CG6 if you're interested, what kind of budget are you looking at?
Haven’t I already seen this thread? I don’t believe the nitecore would do the job. Rusty probably needs gobs of throw.
Actually, I need it for a hunting buddy who’s likewise gone nuts for lights. Throw would help. Still need to find out his budget. As always, the cheaper options will be considered first.
This thread might help. I’m pretty sure there is another recent thread on the subject and many older threads. Just have to search for them. I don’t believe I’ve seen any very good green throwers though.
Maybe, CG6 green light is only rated around 200 feet.
I’ve played around with a lot of colored light options for hunting, and I simply haven’t seen anything that mounts as easily and performs as well as a Solarforce L2 host (I use a L2P) with a Customlites M3 with the XPE2 Emitter.
Now, I’m just now working my way into modding, so I’m sure that someone who knows what they are doing could do something for a little less $$, but I picked up two of these in Red from Dave @ CL, and they simply work wonderfully. I have options form Eagletac, Solarforce, Ebay, and elsewhere, and these easily out-throw the best of the others by at least a factor of two.
So, IMO (and it is only that), if you’re goal is to just be a good friend and provide your buddy with a usable light, there are plenty of options. If you’re looking to provide him with a hunting light that is truly usable for distant nighttime hunting, then look at the Customlites M3.
I have tried all color led on game, and they all act pretty much the same. Some of them(that have not experienced any light so far) stay and some of them flee. No matter if u use red,green, blue or yellow.
This color emitters is myth among hunters but all of color light acts the same as white one...
Game even react on IR led(which should be invisible to human and game)
This all started with laser genetics propaganda with their laser ND3 flashlight which btw is pile of trash...
Im working on a green adjustable Thrower…. I just got my host in today matter of fact, the host can hold one 18650 or a 26650 and it can be adjusted. The led i found is rated at 800-1000 lumens @ 1.8A so im going to be using a 7135 driver with few chips removed.
ill make a thread once all my parts gets here
I think most animals will recognize a light source if shined directly in their eyes, though I’ve lighted many a coyote with red from a broadside angle and not had them start in the least. On the other hand, I’ve shined green lights at yotes from behind and had them tear off like banshees!
The one I’m not sure of is raccoons ability to see red light at all. I have walked straight up to raccoons with a red light and not had them notice me in the least. In fact, I had one of the funniest moments of my outdoor life happen with a red light and a group of raccoons. It was late summer and some coons were feeding on pears on the ground in a grassy area on the other side of our barn. We were raising pheasants at the time and something kept reaching through the chicken wire and killing the pheasants while they slept at night. We were virtually overrun with raccoons, and were almost certain they were the culprit, but wanted to try to confirm.
I sat out in a lawn chair for a couple of hours one night waiting to see if any raccoons would bother the pen. Eventually I heard coons at the base of the pear tree. There were a half-dozen or so tearing into the fruit. Since it was a heavy dew, I was able to creep slowly across the grass toward the coons that mostly had their backs to me. I had my bow with me rather than a gun, and had a varmint light mounted on the stabilizer with a pressure switch attached to the riser. I had to be relatively close to get a bow shot in low light, but as I reached the 10 yard or so mark, I couldn’t believe that not a single raccoon seemed to notice that I was creeping in behind them. So I decided that I would just tip-toe as far as I could until they scattered. By the time I reached 5 feet, they STILL hadn’t moved, and not a one indicated that it was aware of my presence. Now mind you, I’ve got my Eagletac T20C2 MKII pegged on them the whole time, and I’m close enough that I’m only lighting up a couple of coons, and it’s casting a really harsh shadow. Still absolutely no response.
So I take three more small steps. I could now POKE the coons instead of shooting them. I’m not even breathing because I know it would alert them. I’m having a hard time not bursting out laughing. I decide to take my left foot and nudge the closest raccoon. Yeah, it was probably a bit foolish since I had no idea how they would react, but my curiosity was in high gear. Low and behold, you would have thought that my foot was a cue ball that perfectly collided with a tightly racked triangle of pool balls. The coon I touched shrieked! And all six coons took off in every direction, looking like an ant colony with a rock dropped in the middle of it. With only the pear tree for immediate cover, after just a few seconds they all made their way up the tree. With my light I could see a dozen beady eyes in panicked stares looking down from above.
It was like the raccoons had no ability to see the red light at all. Ever since then, I’ve been a fan of red lights for varmints, though there’s no question that green offers me better visual acuity.
Single-Mode, forward-clicky switch, an aspheric lens, and a potted P60 dropin using one of these:
...to make a nice thrower. 
<edit>Looking more closely, FastTech shows a shipping ETA of April 01... 
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I think most animals will recognize a light source if shined directly in their eyes, though I’ve lighted many a coyote with red from a broadside angle and not had them start in the least. On the other hand, I’ve shined green lights at yotes from behind and had them tear off like banshees! The one I’m not sure of is raccoons ability to see red light at all. I have walked straight up to raccoons with a red light and not had them notice me in the least. In fact, I had one of the funniest moments of my outdoor life happen with a red light and a group of raccoons. It was late summer and some coons were feeding on pears on the ground in a grassy area on the other side of our barn. We were raising pheasants at the time and something kept reaching through the chicken wire and killing the pheasants while they slept at night. We were virtually overrun with raccoons, and were almost certain they were the culprit, but wanted to try to confirm. I sat out in a lawn chair for a couple of hours one night waiting to see if any raccoons would bother the pen. Eventually I heard coons at the base of the pear tree. There were a half-dozen or so tearing into the fruit. Since it was a heavy dew, I was able to creep slowly across the grass toward the coons that mostly had their backs to me. I had my bow with me rather than a gun, and had a varmint light mounted on the stabilizer with a pressure switch attached to the riser. I had to be relatively close to get a bow shot in low light, but as I reached the 10 yard or so mark, I couldn’t believe that not a single raccoon seemed to notice that I was creeping in behind them. So I decided that I would just tip-toe as far as I could until they scattered. By the time I reached 5 feet, they STILL hadn’t moved, and not a one indicated that it was aware of my presence. Now mind you, I’ve got my Eagletac T20C2 MKII pegged on them the whole time, and I’m close enough that I’m only lighting up a couple of coons, and it’s casting a really harsh shadow. Still absolutely no response. So I take three more small steps. I could now POKE the coons instead of shooting them. I’m not even breathing because I know it would alert them. I’m having a hard time not bursting out laughing. I decide to take my left foot and nudge the closest raccoon. Yeah, it was probably a bit foolish since I had no idea how they would react, but my curiosity was in high gear. Low and behold, you would have thought that my foot was a cue ball that perfectly collided with a tightly racked triangle of pool balls. The coon I touched shrieked! And all six coons took off in every direction, looking like an ant colony with a rock dropped in the middle of it. With only the pear tree for immediate cover, after just a few seconds they all made their way up the tree. With my light I could see a dozen beady eyes in panicked stares looking down from above. It was like the raccoons had no ability to see the red light at all. Ever since then, I’ve been a fan of red lights for varmints, though there’s no question that green offers me better visual acuity.
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Very nice that you shared experience with us. Probably some game perceive light in a different way than the other. But thing that will mostly freak out game are reflector lights.
In my practice(and plenty of hunting colleges) this is proven thing:
When you turn on your reflector light game freaks out because they notice great source of light coming from reflector with all beam characteristic hotspot,flood spill, which transfers that light on grass, wood or any nearby object.
This will not only freak out the game but it will also mess with your night vision:
- When you turn on reflector LED light, your night vision is killed by spill light that is reflecting from those nearby objects. Your pupil of the eye narrows and you see less. The brighter the enviroment is, the narrower is the pupil of the eye, so there's a reduction in light that hits the fundus.
When it comes to rifle scope hunting there is nothing better than high quality aspheric flashlight because it has only hotspot type of a beam without any reflection transfer on environment which will freak out the game much less than reflector... It has sharp borders, so there is better contrast between illuminated area and dark area. The enhanced contrast also lets you to perceive it brighter.
I use white(neutral white) only because you can perceive thing better and you can react much quicker... I see further and brighter than with green, red, or yellow one and in my practice for the type of game i am hunting results are absolutely the same no matter what color led you use. Sometimes they freak out and run but in 70% cases they just watch trapped in a pure hotspot type of a beam.
The Customlites M3 would be my choice. I made red and green pills for my own M3 using the xp-e and 1.4A drivers, and an xp-g2 @ 2.8A. Easily swapped so very versatile.
The Uniquefire HS802 in green would be my readymade low budget choice otherwise.
Hunting colleges??
English is not my native language so if I wrote some grammar mistake I will not apologize for that to anyone.
I can bet that you don't know to say a single word of my native X language and if you would ever try to speak it I would not mucking you for that.
Friend hunters or hunting friends... Does this sounds better?(but most of them are not my real friends, so when someone is not your friend and you share only certain activity with them I suppose they are your colleague?)
I do quite a bit of lamping of rabbits and foxes over here in the UK, which is basically shooting them under a spotlight for pest control.
Most serious lampers in the UK and places like Australia use something like this: Lightforce SL170 Striker Handheld Lamp - 600m Beam | Uttings.co.uk with a red filter and a dimmer but I’m not convinced that colour makes much difference either.
A bit of spill is useful in my experience because the game is less spooked if you lamp them only intermittently, with as little light as possible and using the edge of the beam after they’ve been identified and shooting for eye-shine.
Are you looking for something to search out and spot shot game or something to actually shoot game under?
Yes, colleagues. I understood what you are trying to say. No worries. You have better English than many who come here. We aren’t judging.
The friend has decided to try a green cheapie C8 for now. Any experience in the field with those?
Wow, chill a little there, guy. I wasn’t mocking you at all. I was simply wondering what you were talking about. I had never heard the term “hunting colleges” before and didn’t realize you meant ‘colleagues’. Furthermore, if you would put a location other than “X”, it might be more readily known that English isn’t your first language.
I travel in non-english speaking countries all the time. I’m usually mocking myself. ‘Thick skin’ will take you much further than hyper-sensitivity in a public forum.
