NIGHTWATCH Avaritia NA40 SE:  triple SST20 3000K, 4000K, 95cri, type-C rechargeable - $42.24 Code: NA40SE New photos in post #53

Tom_E · 2019-01-11T18:23:50.000Z

contactcr:

Tom E, how does the reflector compare side by side with C8F?

Oh boy, at work now. I don't have SST40's in a C8F, but I got a few other types. Now I'm all confused because the pics I see of the NA40SE in post #1 and on Neal's website show an OP reflector where mine (NA40) is SMO, like the C8F. So, are the pics only for the SST-20's or did they switch over to the OP altogether?

Maybe Neal has the answers? He never replied to a message I left on his website or an email, but I've had back and forth discussions with him on FB Messenger after that.

Notice the Nightwatch lights on Neal's site is in the "Others --> Other Flashlights" listing? Ouch - no respect...

I'll try messenging him bout this...

contactcr · 2019-01-11T18:29:43.000Z

Yea not as concerned about how SST40 looks in both more so about the dimensions and fit and finish. The C8F reflector, like the Q8 seems to do pretty well with most LEDs and has a good hotspot and smooth spill.

Tom_E · 2019-01-12T22:06:14.000Z

Some pics of the C8F 21700 w/351D 4000K's vs the NA40 w/SST-40's. The C8F as about a 44.5 mm head diameter while the NA40 is about 41 mm. The reflector cups are very slightly smaller than the C8F's. Again, mine is SMO and looks like the new NA40SE is OP, least that's what they show in the pics:

C8F on left, NA40 on right:

NA40:

C8F:

contactcr · 2019-01-12T18:59:23.000Z

Wow more similar than I thought. Thanks for taking the time to do this. It is strange they switched to OP when the SST-20’s have a pretty nice beam that works fine with SMO. Maybe they had a different LED in mind for this originally.

Tom_E · 2019-01-12T22:11:58.000Z

contactcr:

Wow more similar than I thought. Thanks for taking the time to do this. It is strange they switched to OP when the SST-20’s have a pretty nice beam that works fine with SMO. Maybe they had a different LED in mind for this originally.

Oopsie, had the last 2 pics labeled wrong -- fixed that.

Yeah, wonder why they did went with an OP. I'm sure there's loss's for throw. Based on the D4S specs, the best thrower LED seems to be the SST-20 at 5000K or little better at 6500K. The 3000K and 4000K's drop off quite a bit, but in the same % drop as does lumens.

tatasal · 2019-01-14T03:10:50.000Z

Mine is incoming probably within the week.

Will be posting some shots with this baby in the family.

tatasal · 2019-01-14T09:22:13.000Z

26980 batts and tube (reportedly 6,000mAh and 5mohm!):

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Kit_Latura · 2019-01-14T08:14:32.000Z

Sorry, but I’m out.

I’m not quite convinced with this model.

Rdubya18 · 2019-01-14T09:52:10.000Z

What’s a 26980 ? Where is this tube ? Haven’t heard mention of either of these .

tatasal · 2019-01-14T09:58:46.000Z

Rdubya18:

What’s a 26980 ? Where is this tube ? Haven’t heard mention of either of these .

Just added in Neal’s website: 26980 tube available, and 26980 battery(6000mah, 5mΩ ) is $8 each,

Nealsgadgets

NightWatch Avaritia NA40 SE 3x SST40 LED Flashlight

Price: USD 3.00

Rdubya18 · 2019-01-14T09:58:17.000Z

Yeah , I guess I missed that when I ordered .

Rdubya18 · 2019-01-14T10:04:41.000Z

Must have to message Neil with that request.

tatasal · 2019-01-14T10:23:20.000Z

Rdubya18:

Must have to message Neil with that request.

I am about to remind him about this.

Edit: Stay tuned for website product page update

Edit: Site fixed, you can order the 26980 cell AND tube for the NA40SE

Nealsgadgets

NightWatch Avaritia NA40 SE 3x SST40 LED Flashlight

Price: USD 3.00

Rdubya18 · 2019-01-14T12:39:07.000Z

Thanks , got it

tatasal · 2019-03-02T11:26:30.000Z

Got my grey Nightwatch NA40SE (3000k, 95cri) today: (the blueish tone is the effect of the CW Ledlenser K3 that I use to provide spot-lighting)

Spring-less tailcap, but a protrusion the size of 3mm (h) X 11mm dia. (not the same design in Tom E’s non-SE version.)

Below is the previous tail-cap of the non-SE version (photo courtesy of Tom E):
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The front of the tube has to be unscrewed to expose the type-C charging port:

——————————————————-Double O-rings at the back

Nightwatch NA40SE beside the Nightwatch NS22 Seeker:

Control shot —- NS22 (3000k, 95cri) —- NA40SE (3000k, 95cri)

Tom_E · 2019-01-17T13:14:26.000Z

Thanks for the pics! Good to see they changed that tailcap design, though it looks like it won't work well with 18650's because of the width and flatness of the protrusion. In mine, the spring inside the battery tube was stiff and relatively short, so there wasn't much margin to fit differing size batteries - not sure how the spring looks, and how it handles battery sizes now.

I liked the matte finish, maybe anodized, finish of the SS bezel before but least they stayed with SS. The OP vs. SMO - I'm ok with that, no one else seems to use OP in reflector triples so it makes it unique. Probably better looking beam though it cuts down on throw.

Just might have to order this SE model now - great price for the quality of this light.

tatasal · 2019-01-17T13:26:53.000Z

Tom E:

Thanks for the pics! Good to see they changed that tailcap design, though it looks like it won’t work well with 18650’s because of the width and flatness of the protrusion. In mine, the spring inside the battery tube was stiff and relatively short, so there wasn’t much margin to fit differing size batteries - not sure how the spring looks, and how it handles battery sizes now.

I liked the matte finish, maybe anodized, finish of the SS bezel before but least they stayed with SS. The OP vs. SMO - I’m ok with that, no one else seems to use OP in reflector triples so it makes it unique. Probably better looking beam though it cuts down on throw.

Just might have to order this SE model now - great price for the quality of this light.

Yes, 18650s are just too wide to make contact with the protrusion.
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However, the op reflector is an excellent match to 3 x SST20s, and oh yes, great price for the quality of this light, that’s true.

Tom_E · 2019-01-17T13:28:29.000Z

Yea, depends on the cell wrap's overlap. I guess they narrowed the protrusion, not just filled it in, because mine was pretty wide (can't measure right now). 11 mm is still twice as wide as most spring tops. Again, it all depends on the spring inside that battery tube -- anyone have a measurement or pic? It's fairly easy to remove the top USB charging assembly -- I did it a while back. I dunno - for the NA40 (non SE), I had to use magnets to get my batts to work properly but no one else seemed to complain about it. Or I just like to whine and pick bout something...

SKY69 · 2019-01-17T14:46:02.000Z

Interested

tatasal · 2019-01-18T09:36:18.000Z

SKY69:

Interested

All purchase information about this light can be found in the first post, check it out!

or this:

Code price: $42.24 — use code: NA40SE

Product link: Order HERE

or: https://www.nealsgadgets.com/collections/others/products/nightwatch-na40…