modding sequence Album
Some days everything goes according to plan 
before and after:
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Jon, what was your end goal with this mod? Judging by your photos, the SW45 swap seems to have significantly diminished the candela. Not being critical, just curious.
My apologies for not following your link (if that explains your intent).
My goal was to have High CRI, without green tint
seems to have significantly diminished the candela
Tonight I will compare the throw of 200 lumens from the TS10SG w sw45k, to a normal TS10 Triple
If the single throws more, that will be a win for me
I will do this comparison:
but the light on the right will be the mod to sw45k
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Very nice mod, I wonder how it would compare against a dedomed 519a beam. I guess we’ll wait until it gets released for sale.
Also, hopefully the aux wire soldering didn’t give you too much trouble, I knew you would be able to do it.
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Thank You!
the fine tip on the iron was KEY for me
I could barely even see the wires, wearing a Jewelers visor… but once I cleaned off the flux… I was pleased with the joints… (given this is my first micro soldering experience)
Especially when the aux worked ;-)… I was most concerned about knocking an Aux off its pad, which the fine tip on the iron prevented… Totally worth the $12 tip price
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Looking forward to your results. No doubt it will achieve your desired outcome. Bravo!
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Normally I don’t have too much trouble with seeing tiny wires (and other things) due to being nearsighted but I understand not everyone’s eyesight is equal.
Good call on the jeweler visor, a lot easier than soldering through a microscope. Those fine soldering iron tips help a lot with tiny aux wires, I’m sure you’ll find it useful in the future.
I’d say you did a good job, especially for your first attempt. 
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In my youth I had eyes like a Hawk… now I have eyes like a Mole… lol!
Thank you very much for the kind encouragement. It means a lot to me 
the TS10SG w sw45k throw is indeed more than in a TS10 Triple
though definitely not as big a difference as w the SFT25:
The SFT25 is definitly a nice throwy LED and a good choice for the TS10SG for outdoor use. I wish I knew of a similarly tiny option, but High CRI
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FireFlies has some 3535 round die high CRI emitters (FFL350RD) that have essentially the same profile as an SFT25R, just less output/throw.
Nvm, remembered that they are actually square-die LEDs masked as round die, so super inefficient.
thanks for the reminder:
350RD does make a nice tight hotspot, if only it had better Tint
the other issue w those, is they have a square die phosphor chip, like the 351a, its just covered with a round mask… iow a lot of the LED energy is wasted
Another contender is the XPP… it has a nice small LES:
some of the XPP have nice CRI and Tint DUV specs:
Im not sure where to source XPP atm, but they seem worthy
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I got some 3000K, 90 cri from Digikey last year. Still in stock:
https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/cree-led/XPPAWT-H0-0000-000UT40E7/16892833
I don’t have any in singles right now, but IIRC when I first tried them out they had pretty bad tint shift as they approached their max current (which isn’t all that much). My gut feeling is they’d experience bad tint shift in this light thus negating the reason for using them. I could test it in a TS10 V1 that I converted to a single if anyone is interested.
@koef3 reported the 3000K XPL Hi sold by Convoy isn’t high cri but has good tint.
There’s a post on reddit saying the 5000K SFT25 from KD has a rosy tint. I just ordered one and will see (dang pricey though at $6).
thats the one that interests me… I could not tell if it is High CRI… do you know?
I believe that is what is in this triple TS10 V1… they are high cri with duv 0.0017 and good throw at modest sustainable output below 300 lumens.
the beam is nice and throwy…
Im interested in a 5000K option that is High CRI
fwiw the beam from the triple XPP is suprisingly similar to the beam of the TS10SG w sw45k:
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I don’t think it is. Unfortunately not many options for a throwy high cri led. Hopefully the 5000K SFT25 is like the 5000K SFT40 in that the duv is lower than the 6500K counterparts.
BTW, ever consider a lux meter? I held out for a long time (not wanting more flashlight stuff) but eventually got a cheap one for qbout $15. I haven’t used it too much just yet but it’s going to be super useful in comparing LEDs. Your pics are a huge help though.
yes, I use one all the time
I calibrated it to my 200 Lumen HDS, so I can read lumens directly
that is how I set the output when I compare two lights at the “same” output.
It is suprisingly accurate at lower ouputs, reads low at Turbo outputs
you will probably laugh at my Intergrating Vitamin cap… I just kept adding pieces of printer paper, and kleenex, until the output reading matched my HDS
there are of course lots of caveats, like beam profile, for example a single LED reads on a different part of the sensor than a triple… I only use this meter for my small lights
This is 216 lumens from my triple XPP on ceiling 120:
I realize youre actually asking about Lux on Target… I dont usually try to measure Lux… since my meter is “calibrated” to read Lumens…
For lux measurements I find that CeilingBounce app is remarkably consistent. Of course, it doesn’t give the absolute reading, but the relative intensity is consistent enough that I could calibrate it according to a single light (or a few) of known intensity.
I dont have an Android phone… but glad it works for you
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Ohhh, so you set those to the output lumens (200) per your measurement setup. What step level are they? Is the XPP triple running at a lower level than the other light?
This is a nice mod!
Really pleased you managed to achieve this, beam is approximately what I was imagining it would be like.
I got a chance to have one attempt to get the head open but failed and ran out of time- I’m on a long work trip now so won’t get a chance to swap in a de-domed 519a until I’m back in December.
By that time other LEDs may have arrived and I’ll have changed my plans!
actually the opposite
at the same step level, the Triple XPP output is about 20% lower than single sw45k output (varies a few percent at different lumen levels)
If I wanted the two lights to have the same output at the same step, I would need to use different ceilings, to get matching ceiling outputs
some details:
TS10 Triple XPP ceiling 120, gives 255 lumens
TS10SG w sw45k ceiling 120, gives 307 lumens
with 7 stepped modes:
TS10 Triple XPP on step 6 gives 118 lm
TS10SG w sw45k on step 6 gives 152 lm
some additional detail about the TS10SG w sw45k
at ceiling 130 it gives about 450 lumens, but Tint looks noticeably more violet than one step lower… the duv becomes -0.0041… so not a sign of overheating imo, just noticeably more violet on step 7 than step 6…
I usually set to ceiling 120 instead, about 300 lumens…
I do find the TS10 Triple XPP beam, and the TS10SG w sw45k, work better for spotting my cat at the end of the yard, than the more floody stock CSP TS10 Triple… iow, the XPP throws more than the CSP, and the TS10SG optic throws more than the stock TS10 triple optic
hopefully others will report results of that mod
thanks for the kind words
Im really glad the 219b mod works
I think a 5000K SFT25 like James_C mentioned, sounds like a good option too.
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