Olight X9R Marauder  25000 lumens

hehaw77 · 2018-06-10T16:03:12.000Z

mortuus:

will34:

A light of this caliber without active cooling is laughable, even a small fan with high airflow rate could do a better cooling than adding more massive fins and decreasing the turbo runtime. I would like to see acebeam x70 runtime charts for comparison.

As for the H2R not being dangerous, I put mine to test last year and found out the battery is not protected when you short both front poles, and after several attempts it triggered the 30Q’s internal protection (not PCB protection). It did not get hot or vent, but certainly it puts the user in a possibly dangerous situation.

The heatsink in that light is massive, i think they said after those 3 min on highest the head is not really that warm so i think they did a good job doing a light that can push that much lumens and still not burn your hand if u touch the head ,to me thats impressive and a small shitty fan wouldnt do much and thats why they scrapped that prototype with built in fan from last years.

I mean imalent dx80 throws alot more lumens yet the x9 is far bigger and pushes less so to me this is a way better light.

Hmm can’t say the Olight is better till you do a side by side comparison…. I’ll have both this coming Monday… and I’ll go to the field and test them out…

hehaw77 · 2018-06-10T16:04:20.000Z

KawiBoy1428:

seery:

A full 3minutes at 25,000 lumens before stepping down…

I’m OK with that.

:+1: Me two!

me to three !

hehaw77 · 2018-06-10T16:07:10.000Z

seery:

hehaw77:

here’s the problem the Acebeam x70 is not available yet… and doesn’t look like its going to be for a while

FWIW, I was talking with an Acebeam dealer yesterday and he said “The X70 is at least a month out”.

More than that I”ve been pushing several dealers and called Acebeam themselves and spoke to some reps… they gave me nothing other than they are still testing…etc…

If they are still in QA … that’s probably closer to end of year or 3-4 months out…

CNCman · 2018-06-10T18:52:40.000Z

I’m new here, so can someone please explain how 6 x XHP70.2 led’s can run at 25,000 lumens for any length of usable time without stepping down amps to protect the leds from “roasting on an open fire” ? Also the same question for other similar flashlights.

And if so, it’s worth $450.00 , I guess…

BlueSwordM · 2018-06-10T20:22:55.000Z

4200 lumens is actually what an XHP70.2 does at stock power levels, at 30W

4200 lumens x 6 = a bit more than 25 000 lumens.

It still is producing 120W of heat though, so the heatsink behind the LEDs must stay below 60C before stepping down at 3 mins, meaning it must be quite large and heavy to do so.

It is a lot of power, but it is easily doable.

Had they kept their active cooling, I would be that thing could actually do 15 000-20 00 lumens indefinitely.

mortuus · 2018-06-10T20:26:14.000Z

hehe i do wonder how hot the acebeams x70 will be with the fans running or not after a few minutes thats quite some heat to handle , and olight said on facebook if i remember they had no intent winning the max lumens race, instead they focus on safety and that stuff.

BlueSwordM · 2018-06-10T20:31:22.000Z

How hot?

Well, being a 40000 lumen light and having 12x XHP70.2s, it must be pushing out about 3400 lumens per XHP70.2.

Knowing that an XHP70.2 consumes 22W at that power level, it means that the light is consuming at least 270W of power at max brightness.

Either it is still going to step down after a few minutes because it is producing the amount of power of an overclocked 8 core CPU consumes under a beefy actively cooled heavily finned heatsink, or it must be running the fan at like 5000RPM to maintain sufficient airflow to keep the LEDs cool, meaning it would be a noise monster.

Cool light though still.

atbglenn · 2018-06-10T20:33:02.000Z

I love this new Olight, I’m just not cool with the price.

CNCman · 2018-06-10T21:35:37.000Z

Ok, that’s very interesting, because I want to built a light and had many ideas go down in flames so far. Looking at charts trying ( guessing ) to figure out what is going into the inside before even starting on the outside is hard to do without some Help from you experienced people here at BLF. So if , say for example, 1 XHP 70.2 NW led at 30W ( 3.0 amp ) will produce over 60c. What i need to know is approximately the max temperature it will produce over 60c. I don’t think I can air cool the light I want to build. I want it to run the battery down before heat step down. Does anyone know where I can find some info or can you just tell me here is good.

Newlumen · 2018-06-10T22:31:05.000Z

Once again, price is the reason I didn’t buy this light… another reason is built in battery pack…

hehaw77 · 2018-06-11T02:23:10.000Z

seery:

hehaw77:

called Acebeam themselves and spoke to some reps… they gave me nothing other than they are still testing…etc…

Of course they didn’t.

Manufactures are [typically] very secretive in regards to upcoming models, new technology, release dates, etc.,.

What made you think they would divulge that information to you?

Oh gee let me see like when I called Olight and they told me the release date; it’s in their best interests to divulge no secretes….

Newlumen · 2018-06-11T02:41:43.000Z

seery:

hehaw77:

Oh gee let me see like when I called Olight and they told me the release date; it’s in their best interests to divulge no secretes….

Now that’s funny!

Olight spent 3 years telling EVERYONE when the X9 would release… :person_facepalming:

I spent all my money on other brands. while olight is making x9r. Lol… not joking…

mortuus · 2018-06-11T07:46:31.000Z

Newlumen:

Once again, price is the reason I didn’t buy this light… another reason is built in battery pack…

uh so u wont be able to swap out the battery like x9r ? thats a big fail then.

Newlumen · 2018-06-11T18:11:05.000Z

seery:

mortuus:

Newlumen:

Once again, price is the reason I didn’t buy this light… another reason is built in battery pack…

uh so u wont be able to swap out the battery like x9r ? thats a big fail then.

Yes it can be swapped out, but it’s still a proprietary battery pack.

I believe that’s what NL was referring to.

We want to put Sony vtc5a unprotected… we can’t do that…

hehaw77 · 2018-06-12T05:05:27.000Z

seery:

hehaw77:

Oh gee let me see like when I called Olight and they told me the release date; it’s in their best interests to divulge no secretes….

Now that’s funny!

Olight spent 3 years telling EVERYONE when the X9 would release… :person_facepalming:

No they didn’t if you followed the progression they put hype into the market with no backing; nothing to show for it; except recently hmm 4 months ago… you started seeing the light show up at events… so much for secretive…

mmalive · 2018-06-12T05:27:23.000Z

” I sent money to him as Friend and Family to help him out thinking he was a good guy. If I did that in March or April, that money would have been hopeless ”

Never send any payments via Friends and Family. You have NO WAY of getting it back.

JasonWW · 2018-06-12T10:21:57.000Z

will34:

IMO the DX80 has a very poorly designed heatsink solution, they enclosed a finned aluminum heatsink inside the body, which makes no sense.

It is not “fully” enclosed as people might think from your statement. It is partially enclosed. There are many holes in the body to let air into and out of the light. This does seem to be effective as it is currently the light with the highest fully sustained output of about 7000 lumen.

JasonWW · 2018-06-12T10:24:12.000Z

BlueSwordM:

Either it is still going to step down after a few minutes because it is producing the amount of power of an overclocked 8 core CPU consumes under a beefy actively cooled heavily finned heatsink, or it must be running the fan at like 5000RPM to maintain sufficient airflow to keep the LEDs cool, meaning it would be a noise monster.

It’s using 3 fans.

JasonWW · 2018-06-12T10:36:20.000Z

Newlumen:

seery:

mortuus:

Newlumen:

Once again, price is the reason I didn’t buy this light… another reason is built in battery pack…

uh so u wont be able to swap out the battery like x9r ? thats a big fail then.

Yes it can be swapped out, but it’s still a proprietary battery pack.

I believe that’s what NL was referring to.

We want to put Sony vtc5a unprotected… we can’t do that…

You probably could do that if you are adventurous. The same way people swap 18650 in tool battery packs. You take the battery pack out of the tube, slice the blue shrink wrap then disconnect all the spot welded connectors. Swap the batteries to the brand you want, them either spot weld or solder the packs back together. You can buy heatshrink tubing for 4 x 18650 online. Put it all back together and back into the black tube. It’s not a job for a beginner, but I’m sure it can be done.

Ps, Don’t let the factory know because it will void the warranty.

hehaw77 · 2018-06-13T06:48:24.000Z

atbglenn:

I love this new Olight, I’m just not cool with the price.

You know I hear you… but its an amazing light … battery life , heatsink its really a quality light…