Thanks for the input Fran. I think I'll enjoy this light.
How do you like it? Got similar lights you can compare with in terms of brightness?
I liked it, which is why I recommend it above . Especially the slightly warm (like WH) tint. Quite bright, center maybe a bit less than a q3 but flood is powerful.
Don's beamshots here are representative. It's a bit different in that there's a gradual transition from center to the uniform flood area. I'd like it better if there were a slightly more defined center.
The only QC issue on mine is that the emitter is a bit off center. This is because the "star" they use does not sit in a crevise/groove, and seems to be just centereded (and silicon glued) by whomever was assembling the light. The reflector has a bit of play so slight errors are ok. On mine the star is about 1mm off-center and the emitter is maybe 1/2mm off-center relative to reflector after assembly (the osram die is very small so that's not completely insignificant). I was able to correct it to perhaps 1/3mm off, so still not perfect but the beam seems not too effected, especially it's not a thrower anyway.
Overall, still pretty good and I'm going to get another.
I might have missed it, but do you have the link to Don's beamshots?
but image link is broken?
but this one works.
Use the search
Why use search when we have helpful members like yourself that point helpless members like me to the right direction?
Don says the Hugsby P31 beats the S1. I guess I'll find out if that's true.
If you need for info and comparison to other budget lights sold at DX, check at DrJones page (hope he doesnt matter I put the link here)
Do you see? he has classified the flashlights by battery type. Then in each type you can compare between them and others.
SSC P7 (18650) -> Ceiling bounce 470. Spot intensity 3,6
AA-S1 (14500) -> Ceiling bounce 200. Spot intensity 1,5 (almost half of the SpiderFire SSC P7)
TrustFire XPEF23 (10440) -> Ceiling bounce 160. Spot intensity 1,8
But as he says: "rough data only"
Medieval, the P31 beats the S1 in terms of throw. In flood, it doesnt, or is very similar
Interesting (from DrJ): The UniqueFire AA-S1  (10$) has a big, smooth, but quite bright spot and thus a good total brightness (total luminous power) in this group. With it's small Golden Dragon emitter it should be able to be a better thrower (if that's what you want); I assume the position of the emitter relative to the reflector isn't optimal in that respect
Might have to try a small spacer between the emitter and reflector.
It's curious that they used a OP reflector in the light. the osram may be good enough for smooth one. As if it's not already floody enough...
The Ultrafire RL-118 is an Osram Golden dragon led
Thanks for all your input, I now have a little more to work with.
phlowcus and Xrayboy I forgot to mension that I allready have bought the BlackCat (Red) for my wife.
I did not know that the KD version is a warm white. Like Mr Admin I like that, so I may try a version from them.
Acording to Fran82 it may soon be difficult to get a S1 from DX. I hate to not having mine, so I better order one now
so I have one as spare.
Charlestt do you (or others) have any experience with the RL118?
If you know of a Golden Dragon light please inform me, thanks.
Great! Now there are two lights I need. I may need to get a neutral (not really warm if it is 5000K) Black Cat and the AA S1. I don't have any Osram lights.
Either of these forward clicky? KD says the Black Cat has a slide switch, but it's a tail clicky, right? All are one mode?
Well, I went ahead and got the S1. Then I can get a Black Cat later.
Don't forget about BestOfferBuy.com, they have almost everything that DX carries for about the same price, and they sell a lot less, so they might be able to offer some of the more scarce items still.
That Black Cat is warm white, at least the one I got. Here's the so called 5000k vs. a normal Black Cat:
Hi Nautic yes i have the ultrafire RL118 it's an amazing little light
I did a review of the RL-118 on Jayki.com
Still one of my favourite lights but it is not perfect. I like it a lot....
Holy cow. That really is warm. Does it really look that orange? Or only side-by-side? Thanks for the great picture.
Very nice color on the left there! How do they achieve that, with phosphates in the dome around the light? Could you please give us the URL of the one on the left phlowcus? Thanks!
That's not 5000k at all. Warm white like that is ~3000k.
sb56637: Warm like this done by more phosphorus applied in the led coating so more blue gets translated to lower energy spectra (like how crt's work).
What I"m curious about is they have this one: http://www.kaidomain.com/ProductDetails.aspx?ProductId=9954
Which is indicated as "yellow" instead of 5k, costs slightly more, but looks to have same warm beam?? I guess I'll see how yellow the 5k from kaidomain is once it arrives.
I was the one that mentioned the FocalPrice C78 had an ugly beam at both flood and full zoom. My Romisen RC-C6 has the best flood mode. The beam is a perfect uniform really big round beam. My Romisen does not throw nearly as well as my KD MXDL SA-28 though.
I have a sa-28, too. But I messed it up a bit when I popped off the lens on the emitter when wipping it down. Apparently those are just glued on. So I superglued it back on (gluing only around the edge) and now it has a patch of yellow in full throw, which it goes away after a few min? I suppose it's because of the heat, but I would've expected it to change geometry and not color...