Just what it says on the tin.
They got some actual real lights this time. 
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Saw this.. I have a few Acebeams an Wukkos. Good torchesā¦
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Weights given in grams, everything else in Imperial.
Because his kitchen scales are post Y2K?
Yeah, it was an odd collection of cheap-ass zommies as well as pricey reflector lights.
But finally Sofirn and Wurkkos are getting represented, as well as more mainstream lights as Nitecore, Acebeam, and even Oilight.
I wonder how a Q8 type light would hold up. 5000 lemons off the start, lots of thermal mass to keep pushing longer, and plenty of battery power whether 3Ć21700 or 4Ć18650.
Only thing that bugged me was when he commented one of the lights had a yellower beam than the others, as if it were a Bad Thing.
He should come here and be treated to people wanting 1800K lights.
Guessing that was maybe 4500K vs the usual eye-watering 7000K rainforest specialsā¦
Spoiler for the unsurprising conclusions: the expensive brands perform well, and the Wurkkos is a good value.
There are some issues with the methodology though:
- Points are awarded for the most throw. Increasing throw does not necessarily improve a general-purpose flashlight, and at a certain point becomes a detriment.
- Runtime is measured in the highest mode to an unspecified cutoff (zero? I donāt think itās zero). This rewards lights with aggressive throttling, balanced only by the output at 15 minutes metric.
- UI isnāt even mentioned.
- Modes other than the highest are only mentioned in passing.
- Color characteristics are only mentioned once, to describe the high-CRI neutral-white light from Milwaukee as āyellowā. White balance is set so that cool white lights look white, and the Milwaukee indeed looks yellow.
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How did he only get 500lm for the Wuben? Flashaholic measured it higher than spec @ turn on, 1100 ANSI, I get well over 1000, too. Did he do that tests without charging the batteries first and that of the wuben was quite low?
He previously got unreasonably low output from a Zebralight headlamp too. In that case, Iām nearly certain he didnāt have it in the mode he thought he did, but the Wuben C3 is a basic reverse-clicky where itās pretty hard to do that.
Not the most trustworthy then - sadly, he has some good content, but flashlights are not his thing.
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He could very well have a defective C3. At its price point, I imagine itās hard to keep the defect rate low.
One thing you have to remember is that he likely gets all of his test products from Amazon or big box stores. So if your favorite light is only shipped from China heās not going to be testing it. And for many people in the US and probably in many places around the world that holds true also. If itās not available from Amazon or a big box store they are not going to consider buying it or even be aware of it. I donāt think he mentioned a model number of any of these lights. To just refer to these lights as the brand name doesnāt do anybody a service. To just gather a dozen lights from various companies of different sizes and shapes, battery sizes,etc, and then compare the lumens and run times is not really helpful to anybody here. For most people perusing Amazon there is just an overwhelming number of (garbage) flashlights. So if this helps some of them narrow down their choices a little bit I guess itās useful to a few people. Those people donāt understand or care ahead of time how important the UI is.
The one thing project farm does do well though is provide āsomeā objective numbers to evaluate the test subjects. Even if the test subjects should not be compared to each other.
I didnāt get that he was belittling the light for being yellowā¦ More just a passing comment. Plus it was definitely more yellow than any of the ones he tested. As usual, it was a good set of testsā¦ maybe not up to flashaholic standards, but I think he tests for a more mainstream audience.
Is there a high vs turbo?
Some cycle LMHā¦ but you have to 2click for turbo.
nope, it cycles through all the modes. doubleclick is strobe.
He screwed up on the Sofirn SC29 too by not having it in turbo. Kind of annoying to make basic mistakes for such a video.
I give PF credit here because he is the only one doing head-to-head testing in flashlights on youtube and itās a lot of work. Todd isnāt a flashlight guy and it shows, and some of his numbers seem low. Otherwise, itās a good watch and of course, the outcomes are too predictable!
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Some seem low, some seem high, particularly the seeker 4 pro figures. Iāve not seen any of the reviewers get the rated brightness, nevermind exceed it by 1000 lumens.
His methodology of āoverall winnerā with the rankings is great, but itās just poorly applied in this specific use case.
If he were to do a video based entirely on throwers, or flooders, or AAA lights for example, itād be a much, much better comparison, but heās got floody lights next to throwers next to zoomies, and the floody stuff is ranked lower due to not throwing as far.
He does listen and re-test categories with viewer suggestions though so hopefully he will do another one in the future.
There was Torque Something (Torque Test, ??) who did similar testing.
Torque Test Channel. Yep they have dine a few rounds of head to head comparisons in roughly the same way, using the TKLamp tester and similar methodologies. Both are good, but thereās some room for improvement. Testing that many flashlights isnāt easy so I give mad props to both.
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Ah, themās the ones.