Request for best way to build a desired narrow beam light

Hi! I hope this is the right place. I’d like to build or have built the brightest possible narrow beam flashlight with 1 or 2 (3 if it had to be that way) batteries side by side. The batteries could be 18650, even more 18350 or 14500. Aspheric or optic or other means are all fine.

I need a spotlight to look in to shadowy spaces outdoors during the day. A 1/2 degree beam would be ideal. 2” at 10’ and 10” at 50’. The brighter the beam the less important a small spot would be. It wouldn’t need to run more than a minute between rests. Since it’s used during the day any spill or even corona is wasted. It would be nice if it could fit in a roomy pants pocket. A small 18650 build is small enough but smaller is better if it maintains usability.

Any ideas on what LED, reflector/optics, host, driver, etc? A ramp would be great if it could be done. Thanks.

Three - little unfocused to 16 mRad divergence - laser beams, red, green and blue?… it’s the only option that could fit in your pocket.

Edit: though I suppose this would count as a ‘laser pointer’ and be illegal in the USA…

Hmm… Try a dedomed XP-E2 in a B158B with a QLITE at 2A. That’s about the best pencil beam you can get that you still can put into your pocket. Anything smaller will have a bigger hotspot and less throw.
I wouldn’t advise on lasers because they are monochromatic, being only one color, and thus won’t be good for spotting objects, only pointing them out.

I’d need at least 3 XPEs. I’ve tried it with one and it’s just not bright enough.

Triple XPG2?

Remember my pockets are big enough to fit an 18650 and maybe 2 side by side. Definitely 2 14500s side by side and probably 2 18350s end to end. I’d like to gather all the lumens of one of the newer LEDs in a small area. With a newer LED I could probably do fine with a 2 or possibly 4 degree beam.

Thanks.

For a 16mrad beam the only way is to use a laser, for the brightness on daylight you need likely 1W of 520nm, just the bare diode cost you 300$ If its not a fake rating or highly overdriven
The thing with those high power greem laser diodes is cooling, the datasheet says operating temp 0-50dC, for 5secs you are fine in a pointer

Could be run from a single 18650 as the diode takes 4.8-5.5V and 1.5A

With 16mrad and 1W you could damage eyes within 20m

18650 with a 1” head or 18650 with a big head?
Because you will 100% not be able to get both a bright beam and half degree divergence with something as small as 1”

As I mentioned in the OP if the beam is very bright then it doesn’t have to be as tight. Lasers are not an option. :slight_smile:

The head can be larger than the body but not the size of the gigathrower.

So what kind of budget are we talking about here?
Hundreds of dollars? $1k? Less than $50?

Here are two very different lights, the first one produces 1600lm and a pretty large spot, while the second produces a very tight spot with only a few hundred lumens.
Botha re about the same size and shape, but are bigger than a single 18650 flashlight, but still much smaller than the GT.

http://www.onestopthrowshop.com/product.sc?productId=21

The TN42 has as well 600kcd

https://www.amazon.com/ThruNite-Lumen-Flashlight-Powered-Batteries/dp/B01L75AINK/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

Good questions. The Mjölnir is an impressive light but out of range size and price wise. Upper limit probably about $120. As far as I know 1STS no longer produces lights. The TN42 is way too big but the beam shots linked to from the link above showed it worked really well. :slight_smile:

I’m going to check out the D1s and hope it meets the need. :slight_smile:

Good questions. The Mjölnir is an impressive light but out of range size and price wise. Upper limit probably about $120. As far as I know 1STS no longer produces lights. The TN42 is way too big but the beam shots linked to from the link above showed it worked really well. :slight_smile:

I’m going to check out the D1s and hope it meets the need. :slight_smile:

Well it was just an example of what what is possible.
Smaller, I can think of this:
https://www.silentthunderordnance.com/shop/wrath-of-ra
https://www.silentthunderordnance.com/shop/strike-of-hyperion
Neither within budget.

Here is another very tight beam light, but much larger than the first two I mentioned:

If you want to go smaller than the strike-of-hyperion light then I suggest looking at led lenser, because they are the only ones making flashlight optics that have both high lumens and a thin beam with no spill.

Any other “aspheric” flashlights of this size will not have room for either a precollimator or a wavien collar, so you will be losing a lot of lumens when zoomed in, which means you need to run the flashlight on max and get short battery life.