Review: Solarforce P1d

Solarforce P1d: What a Difference Metal Makes

Followers of Foyreviews (a declining number these days, perhaps) will recall my lack of affection for the P1d's Glass Fiber Reinforced Plastic predecessor. There was nothing wrong with the original P1 and there still isn't. And I still don't like it. The P1d by comparison, is enraptured bliss. I think it is Solarforce's best effort to date and it might be the finest P60 host available. Period.

Foyapproved +

Bottom line: The P1d is not a budget host and it is not just a mold copy of the P1. Both visually and in the hand, its heavy aluminum construction and elegant design screams high-end quality. With the latest drop-in modules pushing thermal limits of the original P60 design, the P1d's heft seems to absorb and wick away heat from even the most powerful modules. Of course machine work is spectacular, type 3 hard anodozation is second to none and the attention to detail will leave you smiling with proud satisfaction every time you see and touch this exquisite and beautifully unique flashlight. Transformation from plastic to aluminum; bravo, Solarforce.

What I like:

- not merely a metal copy of original P1

- ergonomics

- heft

- finish

- head-standing night light duty

- aesthetics

- included 16340 sleeve

What I do not like:

- does not tail stand

- price

- lanyard ring spins freely between tail cap and body

- won't accept a Foybezel

Solarforce P1d P60 Flashlight Host (black)

$33.99 Solarforce Sales http://www.solarforceflashlight-sales.com/product_detail.php?t=FB&s=49&id=515

(as of 11-24-12, price reduced to $31.99)

ordered: 11-3-12

received: 11-14-12

designed for 2 x CR123/16340 or 1 x 18650 battery

mil-spec T6061 aluminum construction

type III hard anodization

non-tail standing tactical, forward clicky tail cap switch with 14mm black boot (rated to 3 amps)

strengthened "ultra-clear" coated (both sides) glass lens

"submersible to 2 meters"

"impact resistant to 1.5 meters"

length: 136mm

head diameter: 34mm

tube diameter: 27mm

weight: 110g (empty)

what you get for $33.99:

- P1d host including head/glass lens, main tube and tail cap/switch

- CR123/16340 white plastic sleeve

- stainless steel lanyard ring

- extra black boot and clear o-ring (1)

My P1d arrived in perfect condition eleven days after ordering. Retail packaging included the flashlight, CR123/16340 sleeve, a stainless steel lanyard ring, an extra black boot and one clear o-ring.

Included swag is largely inconsequential but most customers appreciate it, nonetheless. Because the tail cap end does not screw up flush against the flashlight body when fully threaded on, the lanyard ring spins freely in between. Not necessarily a bad thing but, I don't like it.

As you can see, the P1d is not the result of molten aluminum poured into the mold instead of polymer. Dimensions are similar but in use, these are two completely different flashlights. Solarforce says the P1 is 68g while the P1d comes in at a sturdy 110 grams. The metal tube can be seen through the "ventilating design" on the P1; they are elongated and elegant on the P1d. It is derivative but it is not merely a metal copy of a P1, it is a much better interpretation of that light

Perhaps due to production lot differences, my black version is matt like an L2T but it is not black like an L2T. It has a hint of brown and it is gorgeous. Although I'm unwilling to try a real test of surface durability, anecdotal rolling on cinder blocks suggest the "HA III" is game for serious abuse. Like everything about this torch, the feel is unbelievably expensive.

One thing the P1d shares with the P1 is the unfortunate space between body and tail cap. During disassembly, for fun I screwed on the empty tail cap and it does look much better flush against the flashlight tube. I could not find a single nick, burr or even the slightest hint of sloppy machine work. It is absolutely flawless; inside and out and from any angle, no matter how close you look.

This is flashlight art folks; understated perfection.

Solarforce sites say "waterproof design" and the box says submersible to two meters. No rating is mentioned but static testing in the Foylabs "depthsink" (bathroom sink) and dynamic use in the shower with Foy indicates the P1 is easily IPX-7 or better.

A top host needs a top drop-in and they don't come much brighter than the 2-mode hand-howitzer, E1320's Egrenade 3.7. If the name sounds hokey that's my fault; Erik didn't name it but the Egrenade will blow the doors off any module anywhere near its price. The Egrenade 3.7 makes the P1d's performance equal to its looks and quality.

Partially disassembled with included kit. Note "P1" (not 'P1d') and serial number location . . .

Foy likes clear o-rings almost as much as red ones. Does o-ring color matter? Of course it does but pragmatic men of sound logic rarely discuss such things.

This kind of lathe work is hard not to admire . . .

Silky smooth threads are square on both ends . . .

Maybe a little more so on the tail cap threads.

Seemingly insignificant but I do notice things like the inside edge of the head having a slight chamfer. Sharp edges are limited to the cuts at the top of the head, around the bezel. Hardly an issue.

Inside the tail cap edge is similarly smooth.

The P1d is Foy's new favorite. Not sure if its $34 price will be justified by all but I can tell you I don't regret buying it. It's the best host I own and as far as I'm concerned, it is the S-class Mercedees-Benz of P60 hosts.

6-24-13 update

I got another P1d. I use the other one so Foy needed a shelf queen . . .

Same included kit: host, 16340 sleeve, stainless lanyard ring, black boot and a single clear O-ring . . .

Same unbelievably awesome quality. To those perhaps unaware, Foy thinks the P1d is the best P60 host. Period.

That's what I said, the best.

whathesaidFoy

I’ll wait for sure.

What do you mean, “not finished”? there will be even more? I guess I’ll wait here then. :nerd_face:

Thanks Foy! Great as always, even if incomplete at the moment.

A bit pricey but seems pretty good 8)

Seems like a nice light but I'm not sure what you mean by:

"Perhaps due to production lot differences, my black version is matt like an L2T but it is not black like an L2T. "

I understand it, that the surface roughness / smoothness is about the same as in L2t but color is different.

Sorry about that; CT is right.

What I've noticed with Solarforce is the finish on say, an L2T purchased a few months ago and an L2T I get today is often not exactly the same. Differences aren't as significant on black L2P's but I've noticed the L2M, L2T and even the L2 will have a different finish from those ordered at a different time. My two old version silver L2s look like two completely different colors, yet they are the same sku.

Most people will correctly compare the P1d's finish to the L2T. Side by side however, mine are different.

Foy

Color does matter my translucent o-rings are tuffer, last for years and take abuse on airpacks, even a poorly/loosely threaded bottle will blow the o-ring still intact into the gap. These o-rings look exactly like them. The cheap black rubber ones blow out the gaps in shreads and only last a couple of years at best. So yes, these rings will give you better obtrusion and water proofing.

Looks good Foy,sort of a futuristic looking light not quite my speed but well built nonetheless.Matte finish is nice from solarforce lately,I like it better than the HA2.Big minus on the non tailstand tailcap and nonfoybezelable(if that's even a word)ring.

men of sound logic rarely discuss such things.

red I say..... red !

Nice review...looks like a beauty ..

Looks nice, shame its a p60 host, but still good review foy, thanks for sharing.

Thanks for the review :slight_smile:

Really nice looking light.

Thanks for sharing. That's a good looking light.

Great review as always!

I’m a big SF fan but I just find this light too ugly to own. Keep in mind that I own a Sipik 68 so ugly is nothing new to me. I just find the styling to be repulsive. By contrast, my L2P is one of my best looking lights IMHO.

Foy will it fully lego with other SolarForce parts. Some really nice Frankensteins could come about. Please show some if they interchange.

Thanks for the review Foy. This is some chunk of aluminum.

After my recent upsetting 1 day life times budget buys, I broke my chains and bought some IPX-8 rated, ANSI measured lights. I mostly trust my budget Solarforce bodies, if I have decent drop-ins in them. But still, again my recent experiences showed me that a bur on the aluminum pill can cut a soft insulator easily, a solder can be broken with the slightest drop or a driver can be burnt with the slightest unexpected short.

I see Malkoff Drop -ins are die hard ones, for the price of a Thrunite TN10 or almost two quality other lights. Other than Malkoff drop-ins, could you find the most reliable and efficient p60 drop-in after all those Solarforce hosts? I mean, this quality body needs something special to match itself. Not a plain DIY built by myself or a $8 XML drop in from any seller. Even Solarforce dropins can break with recoil.

Look up the EDC+ X60L modules “(store link)”:http://edcplus.com/accessories-p60-dropins-c-3_18.html They’re designed similarly to Malkoff drop-ins, but made with aluminum instead of brass and the reflector is part of the module itself. Seems like the electronics are potted as well, so it should be able to withstand recoil for a while. Also, it’s about $20 cheaper than a Malkoff.

turboBB has a review of it on CPF: “EDC+ X60L (X-ML T6 1C | 1 x 18650 / 2 x CR123) P60 Drop-in Review | Candle Power Flashlight Forum

EDC dropin looks really good. Maybe not the best for 2xCR123 but that would be my only 5% need and a good dropin for 18650 is always welcome.

Kokopelli -

Couldn't agree more; that's why my P1d is packin' an Egrenade.

/SFmodulesFoy

Thanks FOY. i guess the decline in solar force sales are because you haven’t been reviewing many!