Seeking more info on DX80

klrman · 2018-05-02T06:37:48.000Z

After reading DBSAR's thread with his faulty Hakelite and what he went through to try and get a response from them, I don't think Hakelite is any better than Imalent when it comes to dealing with faulty lights.

neo71665 · 2018-05-02T07:03:36.000Z

I won a dx80 so I can’t comment on dropping that much on a light (I would have never been able to justify it).

Mine has been running like a workhorse since I got it. I do wish it was a bit more throwy but it is what it is.

mortuus · 2018-05-02T07:25:18.000Z

Nicolicous:

Alternatively u can buy hakelite MT09R with TA customer driver and it will pump out 22k lumens.

Close to DX80 for much cheaper price

but that host is probably not made for 22k lumens, i have the xhp35 version and even tho its not even close to the stated 7500 lumens it gets very hot after a minute or 2…

Or the op can wait for Olights X9 which should be out soon ? more quality in that i guess.

Electromagnetic · 2018-05-02T23:06:00.000Z

Hey, mortuus from LPF?

The fact that even the 35 version is getting hot so fat is not reassuring. The x9 looks cool, but I would be a little concerned with the price. I was also looking at the x70 with active cooling, but it seems unlikely that light will be below $500. Considering the issues with the hakelite, maybe the x80 is the best option.

yuhsin91123 · 2018-05-03T00:32:08.000Z

Who needs DX80 when you can just get a HaikeLite and mod it with TA driver and emitter upgrade…

Control:

Shot #1- pointing close to me

Shot #2- tree in the back is 213ft away

DBSAR · 2018-05-03T03:41:46.000Z

I have a DX80, its a monster. It demands some diligence & respect though.The only flaw i can find is Imalent didn’t program it to step down soon enough form its maximum modes. (the reason why some had the LEDs die) this light drives the XHP-70 emitters, very, very hard, and with so many of them so close together, there is not enough cooling capacity in such a small light body, the LEDs overheat and burn. I never run mine on the 32000 lumen turbo mode for longer than 5 or 6 seconds, and never run it on the 13000 lumen mode for longer than a minute. It gets hot, very hot… very, very fast on the two top modes. Treat it with care & be careful of not running it to long on its highest modes, the light is great with no problems. on its medium modes ( 8000 lumens and under it will eun all day, but even at the 8000 lumen mode it gets somewhat hot after 10 minutes.

yuhsin91123 · 2018-05-03T01:12:34.000Z

When you have to be careful of something that was made to perform a certain task it’s a no deal for me…
Factory should test and retest and see if the product would hold up under extreme conditions. And I guess that’s what warranty are for…

dchomak · 2018-05-03T01:17:46.000Z

yuhsin91123:

When you have to be careful of something that was made to perform a certain task it’s a no deal for me…
Factory should test and retest and see if the product would hold up under extreme conditions. And I guess that’s what warranty are for…

No fun for you then! LOL

DBSAR · 2018-05-03T01:23:39.000Z

dchomak:

yuhsin91123:

When you have to be careful of something that was made to perform a certain task it’s a no deal for me…
Factory should test and retest and see if the product would hold up under extreme conditions. And I guess that’s what warranty are for…

No fun for you then! LOL

I like the light. it has a wow-factor for its size, that causes jaw-drop by everyone i show it to. Like a powerful high performance car, or like a .50 cal Desert Eagle, it demands respect and caution. 32000 lumens is a lot of heat in such a small package. I agree Imalent should change the step-down and have more of a over-heat shutdown safety, but with some common sense & respect its fine.

dchomak · 2018-05-03T01:39:12.000Z

DBSAR, I have one too and baby mine also. Much, much to much power to not respect.

Your suggestions on how to use the light perfectly describes how the light should be treated. And so what if it can’t be run at 32,000 indefinitely. It’s a physical impossibility, people should just get used to it.

Electromagnetic · 2018-05-03T02:23:38.000Z

yuhsin91123, what kind of run time are you getting on full output? Light output looks very impressive...

Still, interesting to find out that most of the problems with the DX80 are thermal related. That is avoidable with careful use, and the higher output over the modded light is tempting. Still, I don't really know if I want a light that will die after 30 seconds on turbo. To be honest, I don't know if I can trust myself not to keep it on longer.

yuhsin91123 · 2018-05-03T03:18:27.000Z

Electromagnetic_beam:

yuhsin91123, what kind of run time are you getting on full output? Light output looks very impressive…

Still, interesting to find out that most of the problems with the DX80 are thermal related. That is avoidable with careful use, and the higher output over the modded light is tempting. Still, I don’t really know if I want a light that will die after 30 seconds on turbo. To be honest, I don’t know if I can trust myself not to keep it on longer.

Max run time? I never really test the max run time on it since it would step down or simply too hot to hold. But So far I have no problem blasting it at 22k lumens when I need it.

This is got the ramping function like the BLF Q8, so it has all the usable output you want. So the run time on the lower levels you’re looking at hours and hours on a single charge…

The light I have is the HaikeLite MT03, modded with TA Driver, emitter upgrade and spring bypass doing 22k lumens at max. This is a pure flood light which I really like. MT09R can also be modded with a bit less cost since the stock LED emitters are doing pretty good just with a Driver and spring bypass mod.

sb56637 · 2018-05-03T03:23:07.000Z

neo71665:

I won a dx80 so I can’t comment on dropping that much on a light (I would have never been able to justify it).

Mine has been running like a workhorse since I got it. I do wish it was a bit more throwy but it is what it is.

I also received one as a gift. Had it for about a week. So far so good. I also wish it was more throwy. Also the strobe mode (which I actually do use) is quite dim compared to the higher sustained modes that it has, feels like only about 5000 lumens thereabouts, and the strobe frequency makes it feel like it’s more off than on. Apart from that it sure is a powerhouse, and I love the integrated charging.

DBSAR · 2018-05-03T03:28:51.000Z

Electromagnetic_beam:

yuhsin91123, what kind of run time are you getting on full output? Light output looks very impressive…

Still, interesting to find out that most of the problems with the DX80 are thermal related. That is avoidable with careful use, and the higher output over the modded light is tempting. Still, I don’t really know if I want a light that will die after 30 seconds on turbo. To be honest, I don’t know if I can trust myself not to keep it on longer.

It is, with careful use. Its a light that requires respect & understanding. 32000 “measured” lumens from a hand-held medium sized light in stock for like the DX80 is very impressive. I don’t think any other manufacturer can make it any better really for the size & output without having the same complications with heat dissipation, other than the programming & heat detection. Its the only flashlight i have that can turn off street-light sensors so easily.

DBSAR · 2018-05-03T03:32:02.000Z

sb56637:

neo71665:

I won a dx80 so I can’t comment on dropping that much on a light (I would have never been able to justify it).

Mine has been running like a workhorse since I got it. I do wish it was a bit more throwy but it is what it is.

I also received one as a gift. Had it for about a week. So far so good. I also wish it was more throwy. Also the strobe mode (which I actually do use) is quite dim compared to the higher sustained modes that it has, feels like only about 5000 lumens thereabouts, and the strobe frequency makes it feel like it’s more off than on. Apart from that it sure is a powerhouse, and I love the integrated charging.

I think it was more designed to be a “wall of light” than a thrower. So far in the hundreds of powerful flashlights i have/had, its the most powerful flooder by far, ( with the BLF GT being the most powerful thrower) A agree that the strobe seems to be using a lower mode output too, but for when i need a blast of photons this monster delivers in stock form.

DBSAR · 2018-05-03T03:35:56.000Z

yuhsin91123:

Electromagnetic_beam:

yuhsin91123, what kind of run time are you getting on full output? Light output looks very impressive…

Still, interesting to find out that most of the problems with the DX80 are thermal related. That is avoidable with careful use, and the higher output over the modded light is tempting. Still, I don’t really know if I want a light that will die after 30 seconds on turbo. To be honest, I don’t know if I can trust myself not to keep it on longer.

Max run time? I never really test the max run time on it since it would step down or simply too hot to hold. But So far I have no problem blasting it at 22k lumens when I need it.

This is got the ramping function like the BLF Q8, so it has all the usable output you want. So the run time on the lower levels you’re looking at hours and hours on a single charge…

The light I have is the HaikeLite MT03, modded with TA Driver, emitter upgrade and spring bypass doing 22k lumens at max. This is a pure flood light which I really like. MT09R can also be modded with a bit less cost since the stock LED emitters are doing pretty good just with a Driver and spring bypass mod.

On its 500 LM mode it will run for days continuous. On 32000 lumens i limit it to 5 to 10 seconds maximum just because i respect & understand this light and its output.

DBSAR · 2018-05-03T03:39:48.000Z

CORRECTION!! - I just ran my DX80 for a FULL minute… at 32000 lumen turbo mode… it got hot. the head got really hot, but it handled it like a champ, but i do not recommend going past 25 ~ 30 seconds at that blistering output.

klrman · 2018-05-03T03:41:32.000Z

As some of you probably read, I had a little problem with my DX80 coming with one faulty led only half lit. Someone on the Tashenlampen forum had the same problem so he let it run on turbo until stepdown and the led worked again. Didn't work for me so I purchased another head from Imalent and it also came with a faulty led. I ran it on high until stepdown, not turbo and now it works fine and has ever since. Since the second head works perfectly, I decided to keep it as the backup and constantly use the first head to test what it's made of. I have used it often, running it on turbo every other day until step down which takes about 3 1/2 minutes and no problems at all. I'm beginning to think the DX80 is tougher than I orignally thought it was and since I have the second head, I'm not afraid to run it on max to see the results on a long term basis.

DBSAR · 2018-05-03T03:48:23.000Z

klrman:

As some of you probably read, I had a little problem with my DX80 coming with one faulty led only half lit. Someone on the Tashenlampen forum had the same problem so he let it run on turbo until stepdown and the led worked again. Didn’t work for me so I purchased another head from Imalent and it also came with a faulty led. I ran it on high until stepdown, not turbo and now it works fine and has ever since. Since the second head works perfectly, I decided to keep it as the backup and constantly use the first head to test what it’s made of. I have used it often, running it on turbo every other day until step down which takes about 3 1/2 minutes and no problems at all. I’m beginning to think the DX80 is tougher than I orignally thought it was and since I have the second head, I’m not afraid to run it on max to see the results on a long term basis.

I know of that Imalent had a batch of bad XHP-70s from Cree that they ended up with that ended up failing parts of the dies, (2 of the four) I think that if these “bad” batch of emitters were pushed to hard & to hot they would fail/failed. ( maybe even “unflowed” themselves from the board under the extreme heat) like when i built the 14 + amp Super SRK Kung i have, i pushed it so hard to the point that one of the X-L2 emitters got so hot it un-soldered itself from the star & fell into the reflector after 50 seconds of running.

klrman · 2018-05-03T04:36:04.000Z

Good to know. None of the emitters have detached yet, but I think I'm going to be more careful from now on. I feel I put the DX80 through the ringer and it held up, so I will back off and only use it when I actually need it.