I’ve been slicing and dicing a number of these new cree LEDs and so far am reasonably liking the results, unfortunately not the same throw as certain other older LEDs but for the lumens pretty respectable. For a comparison, all in a Jaxman Z1, XP-L2 ~190kcd, XP-G3 ~200kcd, XHP-50.2 ~190kcd. Although compared to the 400+kcd the SoH does in the same host they are not that impressive.