Solarforce K3 head with MT-G2 emitter

I just noticed this:

$57.99

My wife, well perhaps she’s not thanking you. I have a K3 on the way with a new L2P body and 2 extensions. :slight_smile:

How could I pass that up? A mini S2200? They had me in mind when they built this one! :slight_smile: I used the S2200 for several hours yesterday and will do so again today, we’re having a crew in to jack-hammer our concrete slab and repair a kitchen sink drain issue. This light is enormous in the work field! I expect the smaller version will be equally enormous, very handy for tight quarters.

I need to get on a SolarForce mailing list or something, geesh! This will make 7 8. All 4 colors of L2P, another black with M3 head, the S2200, and a P1D. :slight_smile: And now the new K3 on the way.

I’m not on their mailing list, just happen to be on their website when I noticed.

Solarforce certainly seems to be pumping out the new products nowadays though, and yes, I feel your pain :)!

I like their discounts when they introduce a light! :slight_smile: Makes me leap into action, much to the consternation of my lovely wife. :wink:

Looks like this K3 will run with a single tube (2 CR123) a double tube (2 18650) or even a triple tube with (3 18650) They’re showing a very nice runtime of 73 minutes with 2 18650’s and 110 minutes with 3. Nice! Stepping it down from 2200 lumens to 1500 really extends the battery life, I’m sure it helps with heat as well which it will need to to in the smaller K3 head.

Wonder if it’ll need to have some wrapping done to utilize heat sinking abilities like the M3 did?

My M3 is now running at 4.28A with its XM-L de-domed mounted on copper and hitting 610+ yds!! :slight_smile:

Waiting for a normal P60 MTG2 drop in that will fit in my L2M…

This bad boy has an even deeper head than the already impressive M3! So the beam should be equally nice! It’s built similar, but still different than the M3 and has 6 fins instead of 3! Should be pretty kick aus and still keep the HAIII integrity to match the L2P.

Being current regulated and a factory light, it’s a bit underpowered at 1500 lumens. But that works to the good in run-time and heat output. In a pinch, run it with one tube and 2xCR123’s for a small powerhouse light! :slight_smile:

2x CR123 + MTG2 in direct drive only runs at around 650mA, it's usable in a pinch to keep from tripping over things during a blackout but not much more than that.

Yeah, but at “Length x diameter: 61.3 x 52mm” that’s too big for my P60s.
I guess I could put 2 of my extensions on my L2P but the extensions are shiny and dfferent anodizing to the L2P, but this thing costs a bomb. I don’t really need another big light :weary:

Realistically, my current 3A XML2 NW drop in is suitable for general use and is super bright for night walks in the park with the dog so I’m not really looking to upgrade further just yet.

EDIT:

But you can always run 2*16340s IMR to get the current you need, albeit for a short amount of time.

Their spec says:

I’m assuming that the emitter is 6V, so I’m wondering if they have a buck/boost driver for this?

Note the specific wording. It does not say "Stable current-regulated output over the entire input voltage range from 5.5 - 13V." It says it has stable current regulated output, and, separately, it will operate with an input voltage from 5.5-13v. I don't think it was written that way to be intentionally misleading, but it could be made more clear.

Well, I got their L2P body with 2 extensions so I’ll be able to run 2 or 3 18650’s in it. I’ve got Panasonic NCR18650PDs to try so it should work well either way. Three in a line will make it pretty neat looking, long and thin with a nice finned head on it, reminiscent of the head banging Mags. :wink:

This would be a great work light, nice color tint with ample flood+enough hot spot to really focus on intricate work with a decent runtime. Guess I’ll know in a week or so :wink:

Slewflash, not sure how you’re determining the size…that listed size is the overall dimensions of the head, the pill should be very similar to a P60 drop-in like what the M3 head uses.

Comfy, read it again and tell me what you think…(direct copy and paste) Stable current-regulated output with input voltage range of 5.5 – 13V I underlined the “with” as to me that indicates that it’s meaning the current is stable and regulated at that voltUge range. No?

how long before two cr123’s sag below 5.5v though? Mt-g2’s really do need a couple of good li ions for a usable run time, this was sounding good till someone pointed out it uses a p60 pill, no thanks, its just not me.

How about (just making this up), "AR coated lens with extra extension tube included." Would you jump to the conclusion that the extension attaches to the lens, since the two items are in the same sentence and joined together with a 'with'?

Show me a 17mm boost driver that will output ~2 amps @ 6v from a 5.5v input. They don't exist.

Figured it’d be best to “go to the source” about the voltage range and current-regulation question(s), so I’ve written to them asking about it.

Will post back if/when they respond.

Playing the devil’s advocate and all that, but, since you’re just making it up…I can imagine that something came before the “AR lens” portion and so the “with extra extension tube” part would logically apply to the part of the sentence that came before the declaration that an AR lens was included. Such that “Stainless Steel bezel and AR coated lens with extra extension tube” would apply to the light in question, since all of the accredited benefits would be applicable to the original subject matter, the light.

But I also see your point about “lost in translation” being a possible deception worded to be elusive and misrepresent. They DO sell this K3 head as a complete light with only room for one 18650 cell, which should be obvious won’t run the light and will instead require 2 CR123 cells, which also won’t do a very good job running the light. So why do they sell it that way? They also sell it as a complete light With an extension tube to run 2x18650 cells.

I will probably set it up to use 3 cells, with the information you have provided as to voltage requirements and amperage demands with Vf needs also considered. Unless they’ve accomplished something that isn’t being done elsewhere, I don’t see why/how they’ve set it up like they have.

Will definitely be interested in what they say to Ohaya, if indeed they answer. Ohaya, you might have to reword your request to read “voltuge range” so they’ll understand what you’re asking. :slight_smile:

Looking at the picture the reflector looks like it stops at about the end of the hosts. That would put the pill into the inner cup area and could be the size of a large C8 type pill. The 5.5v that’s upsetting people could be as easy as Solarforce runs their batteries down to about 2.7v for giving run times and specs on the single cell. Two batteries would put the advertising upto about 5.5v. Look at their other typo’s, no decent tech wrote their adds. Also looks like this one is run at 1.5 amps. I’ve used the M3 head to host other pills, curious what I could do with this one. 2-cr123’s not a good combo but 3 and now were talking smallish turbo punk. Now which one of you is going to bump it up to 3+amps.

I wrote Solarforce 2 days ago about the picture showing that setup. I know that (1)18650 won’t run it and (2) cr123’s won’t either(they just can’t sustain the amps). I have a MT-G2 dropin in my C2 and it requires (2) AW IMR 16340’s to drive it. I have yet to hear back from Solarforce regarding this issue/question.

At 5.5 volts it's going to be seriously weak, whether that 5.5v is coming from CR123s, 16340s, or a 50 amp capable DC power supply. The LED's Vf won't allow it to pass more current, no matter how much current the power source is capable of delivering at that voltage.

My M3 head is running 4.28A now :slight_smile: So why stop with that one? :slight_smile:

Not deceptive. Two 18350’s would run this one as would two RCR123’s. This light can still be kept short as advertised. They sell little lights they advertise little lights. I miss that little T4.