sst-40 vs xpl-hi in C8+

KevinZA1988 · 2019-09-13T09:58:58.000Z

The C8, C8+ and M21A uses the exact same reflectors. I had a Astrolux C8, and still have a Convoy C8+ and 2x Convoy M21A.

EXACTLY the same reflectors. Just keep in mind the M21A has a froward clicky switch.

kntx · 2019-10-26T23:00:21.000Z

I’m looking for a 3000k xpl hi to put into a FT03 ,would this be worth it? Anybody knows if exists such a led? Thanks

eggmang · 2019-10-29T06:04:18.000Z

kntx:

I’m looking for a 3000k xpl hi to put into a FT03 ,would this be worth it? Anybody knows if exists such a led? Thanks

Yes XPL-HI in 3000K do exist and are available from Simon at his Convoy Aliexpress store;

Convoy Aliexpress Store LEDs

V2-1A = 6500-7000K
U6-3A = 5000-5200K
U6-4C = 4200-4500K
U3-7A = 3000-3300K

kntx · 2019-10-29T06:16:59.000Z

Thanks for replying, would it be a better thrower the FT03 with xpl hi vs sst20 , less heat? Is it worth it to gain more throw?

mortuus · 2019-10-29T08:19:08.000Z

kntx:

Thanks for replying, would it be a better thrower the FT03 with xpl hi vs sst20 , less heat? Is it worth it to gain more throw?

well 3000k is a weird tint to have in a thrower imo…best is to use a neutral tint instead. but it will be less heat if thats what u after tho.

kntx · 2019-10-29T08:23:21.000Z

There’s lots of frog in here,that’s why I’m looking further for a 3000k tint

The_Fat_Controller · 2019-10-29T09:07:39.000Z

I’ve found an XM-L2 running at 4 amps gives a really nice amount of light in a C8 and there are stacks of tint options… But if you are thinking about a bit more power you might want to take a look at the M21A & L21A

Both have the Xhp35.2 an SST40 options

The M21A is really not much bigger than a C8+ but gives you a 5000mah capacity

M21A Host

kntx · 2019-10-30T01:36:19.000Z

K ,I like FT03 body, and now I’ve got the sst40 and xhp50 version. I’m thinking that could improve throw ,or at least maintain it with a xpl hi ,where I can choose the tint , in my case 3000k ,which I really need and like. What do I need to switch the led? New driver, 16mm or 20mm, new center ring? Thanks

California_Prepper · 2019-10-30T05:01:49.000Z

kntx:

K ,I like FT03 body, and now I’ve got the sst40 and xhp50 version. I’m thinking that could improve throw ,or at least maintain it with a xpl hi ,where I can choose the tint , in my case 3000k ,which I really need and like. What do I need to switch the led? New driver, 16mm or 20mm, new center ring? Thanks

Or you could slice the dome on the sst40 and increase your throw.

PiercingTheDarkness · 2019-10-30T06:49:56.000Z

Yokiamy:

Also remember that all convoy SST40 drivers have thermal management and will never ever give their rated lumen output.
Therefore you have to remove the NTC

What is an NTC?

PiercingTheDarkness · 2019-10-30T06:50:57.000Z

[quote=California_Prepper]

kntx:

Or you could slice the dome on the sst40 and increase your throw.

I sliced my SST-40 in my FT03 and only gained 80 meters. Won’t be doing that again.

mns · 2020-04-30T01:16:06.000Z

eggmang:

Yokiamy:

Also remember that all convoy SST40 drivers have thermal management and will never ever give their rated lumen output.
Therefore you have to remove the NTC

If I recall correctly the ‘ramping’ driver that Simon supplies with the SST40 C8+ does not have thermal management. The ‘4-modes’ driver does though :+1:

kevvan:

im gonna buy my first little better flashlight now, and i want a convoy C8+. but i dont know what is best, one with the sst-40 or xpl-hi ?

I have both the “C8 with Biscotti 7135x8 XPL-HI 6500k” and “C8+ with ramping driver and SST40 6500k” and the perceived difference in light output between the two is substantial. The SST40 throws just as far as the XPL-HI does but offers a wider hotspot and more spill. If you do not care for battery life go with the SST40 version. If you prefer better battery life and tighter beam go with the XPL-HI :+1:

just wondering, how comparable is the battery life between the sst40 vs the xpl hi? I ordered the C8+ SST40 5000K and have some samsung 35E 3500mAh batteries for it. Is the battery life reasonable?

PiercingTheDarkness · 2020-04-30T01:18:29.000Z

Which driver are you using?

mns · 2020-04-30T01:30:25.000Z

The 4-mode driver. Hopefully that answers your question. I dont know much about flashlights haha. I ordered that option from banggood.

Sirstinky · 2020-04-30T08:25:31.000Z

35E will give you good runtime. Easily 1 hr. on high mode

PiercingTheDarkness · 2020-04-30T11:30:15.000Z

Sirstinky:

35E will give you good runtime. Easily 1 hr. on high mode

If the driver is 5A then it won’t give 1 hr on Turbo. Well, it might, but not at that Turbo brightness.

Using the 3A biscotti driver with XML2 using a Panasonic 3400mAh battery I got 1 hr 15m until the battery was at something like 3v

BurningPlayd0h · 2020-04-30T23:26:22.000Z

Funtastic:

Sirstinky:

35E will give you good runtime. Easily 1 hr. on high mode

If the driver is 5A then it won’t give 1 hr on Turbo. Well, it might, but not at that Turbo brightness.

Using the 3A biscotti driver with XML2 using a Panasonic 3400mAh battery I got 1 hr 15m until the battery was at something like 3v

High mode on the 4-mode driver is 30% so 2A.

PiercingTheDarkness · 2020-05-01T02:10:10.000Z

BurningPlayd0h:

High mode on the 4-mode driver is 30% so 2A.

It’s only just above 1A for 600 lumens. It’s certainly not ideally spaced levels

High - 600 lumens
Turbo - 1560

That’s a big gap

mns · 2020-05-01T02:21:58.000Z

Funtastic:

BurningPlayd0h:

High mode on the 4-mode driver is 30% so 2A.

It’s only just above 1A for 600 lumens. It’s certainly not ideally spaced levels

High - 600 lumens
Turbo - 1560

That’s a big gap

is it perceived as a big gap though? I thought lumens weren’t really a linear type of relationship in terms of magnitude of lumens and perception of brightness.

PiercingTheDarkness · 2020-05-01T02:27:49.000Z

With the SST40 it appears twice as bright

600 is fine for general use up to 150m

1560 gets 300-350m effective