Streamlight Stinger 800 lumen... what LED?

Sirstinky · 2019-02-04T21:31:25.000Z

This had been bugging me for awhile! Anyone know what LED Streamlight puts in their Singers, the 800-lumen ones? My dad has one. The emitter is tiny, but is really powerful for being so small. Streamlight juat says “C4” but I think it’s marketing lingo as I can’t find any specs. It’s small, maybe 2mm, domed and has a pretty good throw. I’d say decent CRI too.

Thanks!

zak.wilson · 2019-02-04T22:18:18.000Z

Here’s a product page for an official Streamlight upgrade kit to bring older models up to that spec, with a fairly large image showing the emitter.

It’s a Cree XM-L2.

coherent-rambling · 2019-02-04T22:24:05.000Z

Yeah, C4 is Streamlight’s marketing phrase for any surface-mount LED they happen to come across.

I don’t know the answer to the question; do you have any pictures we could compare? I can’t think of any ~2mm LEDs capable of 800 lumens unless operated way beyond their datasheet ratings. Maybe it’s a Cree XB-H (XP-G2 die on a 2.45mm package)?

If there’s a chance you’re off in your dimensions, then XM-L2 is the most likely option by far. That’s pretty much the default answer from any big manufacturer looking for 800-1000 lumens. But they’re 5mm square.

Sirstinky · 2019-02-04T22:29:03.000Z

Thanks! I’d have to get a picture of it. That one looks a little big for the emitter in the light. It looks closer to maybe an XP-l size. I’m thinking it’s not the 800 lm model?

rcwiily · 2019-02-05T20:40:28.000Z

FWIW the emitter in the Streamlight TLR-1 HL (also 800 lumen) measures 5mm.

Sirstinky · 2019-02-05T20:28:51.000Z

coherent-rambling:

Yeah, C4 is Streamlight’s marketing phrase for any surface-mount LED they happen to come across.

I don’t know the answer to the question; do you have any pictures we could compare? I can’t think of any ~2mm LEDs capable of 800 lumens unless operated way beyond their datasheet ratings. Maybe it’s a Cree XB-H (XP-G2 die on a 2.45mm package)?

If there’s a chance you’re off in your dimensions, then XM-L2 is the most likely option by far. That’s pretty much the default answer from any big manufacturer looking for 800-1000 lumens. But they’re 5mm square.

I confirmed, it’s the 425 lumen model Stinger not the 800. It looks like a Luxeon led? It’s small, domed, and orange like an xhpxx.2 led. I’ll get a picture tonight.

Thanks

toddcshoe · 2019-02-05T21:37:31.000Z

rcwiily:

FWIW the emitter in the Streamlight TLR-1 HL (also 800 lumen) measures 5mm.

That looks like a XP-L V6 to me. Have those in a few lights. Looks identical.

coherent-rambling · 2019-02-05T21:42:42.000Z

The XP-L is a 3.5mm LED, and has little squared-off shoulders where the dome meets the flat sides. The LED in that picture is absolutely, 100% an XM-L2. Also, you can’t identify that it’s a V6 from the picture.

Sirstinky · 2019-02-06T07:07:08.000Z

Here are pictures of the emitter! Any ideas on what it is?? Luxeon? I can't tell if it's an xp-l either.

coherent-rambling · 2019-02-06T14:20:49.000Z

It’s a bit hard to make out the details, but I’m fairly sure that’s a Cree XP-G2. The die size looks proportionally correct, it’s got the silver coating on the base with the little dark notch in one corner, and a shadow along the opposite edge of the dome.

Sirstinky · 2019-02-06T16:23:49.000Z

coherent-rambling:

It’s a bit hard to make out the details, but I’m fairly sure that’s a Cree XP-G2. The die size looks proportionally correct, it’s got the silver coating on the base with the little dark notch in one corner, and a shadow along the opposite edge of the dome.

Awesome! The mystery is solved! It makes sense based on the specs and the light’s run time.