- The Fake-Cree LED Awareness Thread - The new "low" in Budget lights.

koef3 · 2017-12-30T15:37:19.000Z

Today I got a Revtronic F30B flashlight, with this LED inside:

This is definitely not a genuine XM-L2. I'm not sure about the manufacturer and the type, but I'll test this LED in the next days to get the efficiency at binning conditions (350 or 700 mA 25 °C Tsp).

Nevertheless, the tint is surprisingly good and a clear white (approx 6000 K) without much color in it. But in this case it means also that the presence of the counterfeit LED can no longer be determined at the tint only.

koef3 · 2017-12-30T23:40:01.000Z

Test of the in previous post shown unknown LED is now available, with very interesting and surprising results!

apashi · 2018-01-18T14:41:23.000Z

are this leds Fake Cree?

mrheosuper · 2018-01-18T14:46:29.000Z

the picture is real( or super fake, i dunno, but 95% sure it’s real), and the 2nd picturn it appear to be fake

g_sintornillos · 2018-01-18T22:55:51.000Z

mrheosuper:

the picture is real( or super fake, i dunno, but 95% sure it’s real), and the 2nd picturn it appear to be fake

+1

The one in the 1st photo looks like genuine CREE XM-L2 (99) but the one in the 2nd photo is fake XP-E(100)

Flail · 2018-02-23T21:27:26.000Z

Could use some help with this one:

Does that look like a genuine XP-E ?

djozz · 2018-02-23T22:54:25.000Z

It misses the third ESD wire at the side and the brown area around the bond wires on the die looks unfamiliar too.

My verdict: fake

DBSAR · 2018-02-23T23:58:48.000Z

Flail:

Could use some help with this one:

Does that look like a genuine XP-E ?

It don’t like a genuine XP-E.

g_sintornillos · 2018-02-24T00:01:57.000Z

djozz:

It misses the third ESD wire at the side and the brown area around the bond wires on the die looks unfamiliar too.

My verdict: fake

+1

Flail · 2018-02-24T00:45:36.000Z

Bummer… This emitter is from a flashlight model that was vetted by the community here at BLF as genuine XP-E in the past, so I guess either the whole product is a clone, or the manufacturer started using fake emitters.

Many thanks for the help guys.

DBSAR · 2018-02-24T01:35:02.000Z

Flail:

Bummer… This emitter is from a flashlight model that was vetted by the community here at BLF as genuine XP-E in the past, so I guess either the whole product is a clone, or the manufacturer started using fake emitters.

Many thanks for the help guys.

What is the flashlight brand & model?

Flail · 2018-02-24T02:11:05.000Z

SingFire SF-348.
I posted a new thread here asking for suggestions on flashlights with similar specs but a real CREE emitter.

DBSAR · 2018-02-24T02:41:44.000Z

Flail:

SingFire SF-348.
I posted a new thread here asking for suggestions on flashlights with similar specs but a real CREE emitter.

If its a genuine SF-348 it should be a real Cree XP-E. (i have not seen one up close to have a look at the LED, as all i have is the BLF special edition ones with the Nichia 219 emitters in them. Maybe another member may be able to chime in on that one.

huzzy · 2018-02-28T21:01:40.000Z

hi guys,

i have recently bought a bike Flash light that says that it Comes with two cree xm-l2 LEDs . After i read the forum i saw that mines are maybe fakes but didnt have seen any fakes that good. As you can see square contacts and the dots are more-pronounced.what do you Thing? are they real?!!

thanks…

DBSAR · 2018-02-28T18:42:41.000Z

huzzy:

hi guys,

i have recently bought a bike Flash light that says that it Comes with two cree xm-l2 LEDs . After i read the forum i saw that mines are maybe fakes but didnt have seen any fakes that good. As you can see square contacts and the dots are more refined.what do you Thing? are they real?!!
thanks…

It does look like a Latticebright XM2, (their copy of theXM-L2) I have a light with one in it and it has the same more-pronounced surface dots as the ones in your photo does. Though this version of the LB copy seems to be a bit better tinted than their fake copies of the XM-L, XP-G, XP-E emitters.

mrheosuper · 2018-02-28T20:31:40.000Z

huzzy:

hi guys,

i have recently bought a bike Flash light that says that it Comes with two cree xm-l2 LEDs . After i read the forum i saw that mines are maybe fakes but didnt have seen any fakes that good. As you can see square contacts and the dots are more refined.what do you Thing? are they real?!!

thanks…

i think it’s fake, but a good one, performance is not much lower than real one, not sure about the beam

huzzy · 2018-02-28T21:18:02.000Z

i have recently found this thread. it Looks like that mines are the same. accordingly this one uses the chips from cree.

LED test / review - Unknown 5050 SMD LED similar to XM-L2 - extremely surprising results, even better than the original?! Flashlight Modding and DIY Parts

LED test Unknown 5050 SMD LED similar to Cree XM-L2 A few weeks ago I ordered a Revtronic F30B (formerly known as 'Nitefighter' F30B) flashlight. My intention was to use this light as host and remove the driver and LED. As I would expect, there was not an original XM-L2 inside, but a 'counterfeit' model. Because of this (also after long search manufacturer and part no. are unknown to me) there's no datasheet or other informations. It's also unknown to me where you can get this L…

DBSAR · 2018-02-28T22:08:09.000Z

huzzy:

i have recently found this thread. it Looks like that mines are the same. accordingly this one uses the chips from cree.

LED test / review - Unknown 5050 SMD LED similar to XM-L2 - extremely surprising results, even better than the original?!

Cree never made XM-L2 emitters where there was phosphor on the bond wires & contacts like in that topic. (that looks even like a fake Latticbright fake with a very sloppy phosphor coating mess.

huzzy · 2018-03-01T00:50:33.000Z

Dispute in Progress…

CEHepp · 2018-03-17T15:24:48.000Z

Check out this weird LED I found on the tool truck last week:

Click the second picture for full resolution.