The most efficient single cell driver question / constant current 2.6A LED Driver (LD-25)

Well although I am impressed with AMC7135 nanjg105c drivers I am not to happy with efficiency running single cell.

So I am willing to sacrifice light output in change for constant current regulation(2-3amp).

Please share experience with 1×18650 constant current 2.6A LED Driver (LD-25)

I need someone who had tried this driver…

It seems like well made and it look like it could really maintain constant current to led even under 3,5V.

Some Russian guy reviewed this and made this graphs in which this driver has very decent and claimed regulation up to 3,3 V of battery.

http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/1610/driversd.jpg

So I guess with better battery better results?

I use one in my edc, coupled with a keeppower 3400mah cell and xm-l 4c, its a very useful light, I have not done much measuring of it, I just use it daily inspecting underneath vehicles.

I can tell you I tend to end up charging the cell way before any noticable drop in output, I also wish it had a lower low, the two group implementation is good though with a slightly longer wait than a similar nanjg and more of a flicker than a harsh on/off routine.

Its best feature for me is constant current in all modes, working around moving machinery, zero pwm is a bonus as pwm can be distracting even with a nanjg.

Qlites do address that issue though.

Thank you…

It really seems like an excellent regulated driver according to this guy graph and you confirmed that.

And one more thing… When I for example put it on med and turn off the flashlight… Will it return on high mode? If so how many seconds I need to wait for this.

we could ask HKJ to test it, link?

Here:

http://www.fasttech.com/product/1143103-1-lithium-2-group-35-mode-26a-led-flashlight-drive

I think this would be excellent choice for people that needs to run good performance light on high mode for extended periods of time.

This is copied directly from the specs on the website for this driver. Something does not add up here. Constant current, no. Direct drive. Output 2.6 amps.

Electronic Components
CONSTANT CURRENT No
DRIVER TYPE Direct drive
INPUT VOLTAGE 3-4.2 -volt
OUTPUT CURRENT 2600 mA

It doesn’t look all that great frankly, it increases current slowly as voltage falls, then nosedives once the battery voltage is below LED voltage.
Now if you don’t want PWM then its a good idea, but otherwise its unremarkable

Im using one of those drivers. I like it for a certain type of light (small 18650 tube/edc). I have measured both emitter and tail current in the past. I considered efficiency to be good. But I don't have the equipment to make a graph and compare with a 7135 based driver, nor have I done any measurements on much on less than 3,6V. So I cant really tell you how it compares vs a 7135 based driver for sure.

If you see HKJ latest test on a 7135 105C, you will see that the driver is also regulated to about 2,5A with input voltage going down towards 3,35V. Basically in terms of how long they stay regulated, they look pretty much the same to me, assuming both were tested with an XM-L.

I like the LD-25 MUCH better than the typical 105C with hidden strobe/sos. Mainly due to no audible PWM and much nicer mode memory.

The specs FT have on the driver are all over the place, and not correct. Its FT, several of their driver circuits have wrong information.

The main question is, how does the LD-25 and a 7135 based driver compare in terms of efficiency when used on medium and low. Someone needs to make the graphs in order two get the best answer to that. I have a feeling the difference is quite minimal.

When that is said, the LD-29 seem to have great efficiency when used with two cells, how it compares with the other drivers when using one cell. That I don't know. I assume OP have taken that driver out the comparison due to size.

Would that work in an Aleto XML-T6 zoomer?

For true constant current to the LED you need either two cells, or a boost driver.

the driver has memory, I dont think I’ve managed to trip it up, it is possible to switch mode groups if your rushing but that’s about it

Thank you very much guys.

Well isnt current increasing when battery voltage starts to drop good thing for maintaing constant current to led?

Actually I meant that driver for XP-E2 and XP-G2. Forward voltage of this leds is 1A i think.

I have some boost drivers like Deerelight 1SM 3-16V 1,5A. But it also needs 2 battery(16340/18650). 1.5 is not enough :slight_smile:

Any idea how to mod this at least to 2-2,5A of current?

I am not sure now… You guys said that there are no plenty of benifts on much cheaper and good old 105c…

And further:

- It is 100% more expensive than 8×7135AMC driver

- It has no reverse polarity protection(it is not for me… I plan to sell few creations and people are mostly stupid when it comes to this, had plenty of cases where they burned my driver with their stupidity)

  • Mode cycling and last mode memory is not good for my clients. Either high only or no memory when changing modes. From any mode it must return to high.

Guys please invent some single 18650 drivers that can maintain constant current(from 2-3A)to led from 4,2-2,9V(or even lower than that for pana cells) of battery voltage.

I will pay 10$ per piece for that kind of driver :wink:

A boost driver cannot have a higher input than the output voltage, I think all want 1 cell constant output current.

And to add, the more you limit the current, let's say 2A, you will see a quite flat discharge especially on a UR18650FM.

A 105C flashed with DrJones' Nlite can be set with the stars to hi-mid-low-moon with no memory, always starts on high mode. Sounds like that's the UI you need, but still doesn't solve the regulation issue at high drive currents. Of course lower drive current will give longer runtime before Vin & Vf start butting heads, but until somebody alters the laws of physics to fit a buck-boost driver onto a 17mm PCB the choices are fairly limited.

Can you link us DrJones Nlite drivers? Sounds like good stuff…

I tried to find it but it is 1:23 PM… Cant see anything… Got’a go to bed

DrJones driver circuits.

PM him here at BLF if you want anything.

Nlite thread: https://budgetlightforum.com/t/-/18531