Thrunite Archer with Nichia 219

Thrunite have started a thread on their forum to gauge interest for a run of their Archer 1A with a Nichia 219 high-CRI LED.

I thought I’d post about it here just in case anyone missed it and might be interested.

That would be great, just make sure, they use the 4500K version of the 219 and not the 3000K version. :wink: The 4500K version rocks da house! :party:

It will be the Nichia 219 H1 4500K LED.

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Thanks Chloe for bringing this up.

hopefully more people will show their interest!

I have a Lumintop Worm copper edition modded to Nichia 219 4500K HighCRI.
Tint wise it is my most favorite light, just closely followed by the Olight TC15 SS with XP-G R5 4C, Balder HD-1 XM-L T6 3C and the Fenix PD32 UE.

…meanwhile i evolve a little tint snobbishness. :wink:

Nichia 219, rear clicky and the modes have me interested, but a $50+ price, size, weight and suspect tail-standing ability causes my interest to wane.

I hope they boost the driver fitting the 219: because of the higher Vf all mods with the 219 I did with the stock driver (exept the ones using lineair drivers, but that has other problems: falling out of regulation very early) gave much poorer output, not just because of the inherent lower output of a high CRI emitter, but because the driver gave less current to the led. For example: the Trustfire mini-01 driver pushes more than 2A through a XM-L led, but only 1.4A through a Nichia 219.

The Archer is for a AA light really big and heavy which is justified a bit by the good output and reasonable throw. With the 219 you loose a lot of that wow-effect. I'd rather see a 219 in a small AA-light, like the Eagletac D25A clicky.

I guess Thrunite doesn`t have Eagletec D25A.

but can you explain what you mean by higher VF for the 219?

I put a 219 in one of my Saber/T10 and it is freaking awesome! A natural combination. The Archer is already pricey compared to the Saber 1A and with the 219 charging an additional premium on top of the regular Archer I think it's a poor choice. A 219 Saber 1A could be done for $25-$30 easily and would be extremely popular.

The thing about the Archer is not only is it a big light compared to the Saber, it's still a twisty but with a tail switch for momentary off/on. You still have to twist the head to change between modes and in my opinion you lose the convenience factor of the tail switch for changing modes and gain the inconvenience of having a longer, fatter flashlight by having a tail switch. I'd rather have a Saber 1A/T10.

Ahh, I didn’t realise it was such a big host. I wondered why they chose that instead of the L10.

For pumping the same amount of current thru a 219, a higher voltage is needed compared to a xm-l or xp-g. Vf = forward voltage = voltage on the contacts of the led.

The 219 gives a good output up to 1.5A (more than that and the output hardly increases and you just generate heat). The voltage through the led at 1.5A is 3.65V. The xp-g2-voltage at 1.5A is just 3.2V, so for the 219 the driver has to push harder to reach the same current.

EDIT: you beat me with your answer Ulibär .

Thanks, Johnny. I would rather they used a smaller host.

Why what happened? Oh, was it the CPF forum light?

But…. Nichia 219!!! :_(

Thanks Ulibar and Djozz.

I actually thought that Nichia 219 needed less voltage...

Nichia can’t be all bad, Surfire uses a cool white Nichia in there newer 6px and G2x 320 lumen models.

Great post Johnny Mac. Does the mode separation between medium and high increase with the 219 and what cell do you use? I really like my BLF 1A but the tint could be improved and would like med and high further apart.

Why does Dinoboy delete all his posts? Is he some sort of forum ninja?

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[quote=cellguy] Is he some sort of forum ninja? [/quote]