【TS10V2 Ti release soon】Wurkkos "slender waist" TS10 titanium version will available on 23th,Sep

With it being a triple please keep it 14500.
If this was a single reflector, I’d say make it dual compatibility with USB, but please remember however you make it there will always be complaints and haters

3/4.

For a triple 14500 is best for performance.
USB-C would be nice, especially with an EDC that sees lots of use, thus could benefit from quick charges away from home. But the charge port shouldn’t add much to the size.
AUX: Multi-color preferrable as it allows determining battery voltage with a glance.

The shortness of the WK10 prototype is very promising! But personally not a big fan of the KR4-like curvature… would prefer the tube (and tailcap) to be as slim as possible. That would also help with making the flashlight lighter. Minimal size and weight are big factors with an EDC, at least to me.

The ring clip design by jon_slider above would be nice.

Any thoughts on the emitters? Will it be the usual LH351D? Or SST-20?
Nichia 519A seems to be all the rage right now and I don’t think a triple with those would be a bad seller… :wink:

My personal preferences (listed from highest to lowest order of importance to me):

Small (short and slim) as possible (does not need on-board charging)

Single LED with ~4000 CCT Hi-CRI LED using TIR (to have more throw than FWAA)

Very Low Brightness in Moonlight Mode (with usable brightness ramping)

Compatible with AA-sized NiMH Battery (even if it does not support Li-ion Battery)

Anduril-2 User Interface (most current version with accessible flashing pads)

Side-Switch (more reliable than double-tube designs with tail switch)

Lighted Side-Switch (with low current drain and controlled by Anduril-2)

Captive Single-Clip (preferably on a reversible body as "jon_slider" post showed above)

No built-in non-removable Magnets (I just find these more annoying than useful)

No Aux Lights (Sorry, I don't understand the fascination with these)

Knowing this, option 3 is my preference.

USB charging would be very useful for an EDC light, less battery swapping.

Thanks for reaching out to the community.

First off I want to say thanks to you guys for listening to community feedback. I know I was quite vocal in the other thread about it and I do value the extra time and effort it takes.

My ranking for options would be:
#3: Considering that you have said the 14500 performance of the light will be affected with 14500, I do not think the extra compatibility would be worth it in that case.

#2: This would still be a good option if you were making multiple versions of it.

#1: I think having a higher priced light running Anduril 2.0 would be much preferrable to a simpler UI. Anduril 2.0 is very customisable and is the best flashlight UI on the market IMO. I’m sure most people here would pay more for a light that is equipped with Anduril 2.0

#4: I do not think built in charging is worth it in a light of this size (and it would increase cost and complexity to do it well).

Some other general thoughts:
Driver: I don’t know how possible it is at this stage, but a driver with a regulated, flat output would be fantastic and would really elevate this light into a must have. From my experience owning an FWAA, an efficient driver is preferable in a light of this size. The FWAA is inefficient with its FET+1 7315 driver and it has poor battery life at any level above the regulated 350mAh.

Clip: I think that a very important consideration for lights of this size. So many manufacturers get this wrong and it can really compromise with how well the light is carried day to day. The clip that is present on the prototype seems like the same clip present on the SP10V3 and SC21. It isn’t a very good design and I think a lot of people would pay more for a one way – deep carry clip. Ill post an image of one modified by reddit user grzybek337.

Finish: The finish of the light looks great; would it be possible to have colourful anodising like the recent releases of the HD15?

AUX Lights: This is a minor point, but would an RGB LED be possible to source? I find them extremely useful on my Anduril 2.0 lights as they can be used to quickly see battery voltage at a glance. I know I am asking a lot, but I do think that having the ability to change them would help to elevate the WK10 above its competitors.

Finally, I want to say thank you again for listening to community feedback. It is rare to be able to speak to manufacturers like this and I think it’s a fantastic thing!

I would love to see these features as well.

Yes, please let this be a practical light, not some hotrod that’s bright for a moment and then drops like a rock in brightness.

I third this. A nice, well regulated, efficient driver would really set this apart from the Lumintop FWAA it’s directly competing against. Even if Turbo output is reduced, having sustainable brightness due to an efficient driver would be a huge selling point. Perhaps this could be accomplished with a 3S MCPCB and a 9V Boost driver.

Deep carry clip, deep carry clip, deep carry clip. Please include a proper deep carry clip! The one on the current prototype is not deep carry. It needs to extent to the very bottom of the light.

There's lots of talk about the pocket clip and it's construction, functionality, and quality. I, personally do not use a pocket clip on any of my edc lights currently. BUT, with one this small, a quality, reversible clip is uneatable when clipped onto the bill of a hat. I LOVED my 4sevens knight for that reason. A small light clipped to a hat beats a huge headband all day!

Voting #3 (14500) with Anduril 2 and as long as we can wish…. a stainless steel body.

Agree.. or at least raw aluminum.

Maybe a dumb question, but why a triple for a 14500 light?

Usually, you’d use a triple to cut the current an individual LED carries down to a third so it runs more efficiently. I’m not sure it’d make much of a difference with currents that 14500s can provide. 14500s are pretty anæmic, both in current and capacity, vs even a middle-quality 18650.

Also, the aperture in front is even smaller than that of an 18650 light, so the optics will be smaller overall, and the individual TIR lenses will also be smaller. Maybe a single LED with wider-angle TIR lens would provide a better beam?

Anyway, hope I don’t get dogpiled on, but I’m just asking. :clown_face:

I’m with Lightbringer. I think it’ll be an interesting light either way, but a single emitter probably would make more sense, especially if paired with a high efficiency driver. Nichia 519A anyone?

How is AA compatibility going to be of use with a high performance model? Wurkkos should look at a single LED version with dual support.

I would definitely prefer option 3, as long as the performance is good and the aux LEDs have fairly low current drain.

I would actually prefer a single LED model over a triple, though.

No press fit clip, yes fully captive ring clip.
No dual function S clip.
Yes body can be flipped so captive single direction clip allows use on a hat.

This is an excellent clip design, that can be flipped:
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note the clip only rests on the body… the clip does not need to be removed when changing to hat mode, just flip the whole body, leaving the clip installed.
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this clip sounds interesting

Some other general thoughts:
Driver: I don’t know how possible it is at this stage, but a driver with a regulated, flat output would be fantastic and would really elevate this light into a must have. From my experience owning an FWAA, an efficient driver is preferable in a light of this size. The FWAA is inefficient with its FET+1 7315 driver and it has poor battery life at any level above the regulated 350mAh.

Clip: I think that a very important consideration for lights of this size. So many manufacturers get this wrong and it can really compromise with how well the light is carried day to day. The clip that is present on the prototype seems like the same clip present on the SP10V3 and SC21. It isn’t a very good design and I think a lot of people would pay more for a one way – deep carry clip. Ill post an image of one modified by reddit user grzybek337.

Finish: The finish of the light looks great; would it be possible to have colourful anodising like the recent releases of the HD15?

AUX Lights: This is a minor point, but would an RGB LED be possible to source? I find them extremely useful on my Anduril 2.0 lights as they can be used to quickly see battery voltage at a glance. I know I am asking a lot, but I do think that having the ability to change them would help to elevate the WK10 above its competitors.

Finally, I want to say thank you again for listening to community feedback. It is rare to be able to speak to manufacturers like this and I think it’s a fantastic thing!
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Thank you, I hope to achieve the expected sale price within $20, so if the AUX lamp is used, it will be a single color. If there are multiple colors, it will increase the head space, and the cost will also increase.I found out that you have the same idea about the clip, I will try to make it better
colourful anodising—definately yes, that is what WURKKOS would like to do :person_with_crown:

Excellent to hear about your reconsideration of the clip and the anodising colours. Understood about the Aux LED increasing the size of the head.

I think many enthusiasts would pay a higher price for a good, regulated driver with a stable light output. If you can, please look into how realistic that would be.

I understand you guys are trying to hit low price points with your lights, so once again, thank you for considering our feedback.

Musts for me:
14500 Compatibility (No need for standard AA or Eneloop), Anduril 2, Deep Carry Clip, NO BUILT IN CHARGING, NO AUX FOR AN EDC.

Wants:
Orange Anno. Please.

I’ll probably end up buying one, as long as it has a flavor of anduril. I’d also love to see something that is a bit less derivative of the Noctigon K series.