What do you feed your pets?

bmengineer · 2019-06-30T12:44:25.000Z

Bob_McBob:

Muto:

https://wtop.com/animals-pets/2019/06/fda-warns-certain-dry-dog-foods-may-be-linked-to-canine-heart-disease/

It’s nice to see people actually taking notice of this now the FDA has named names. That’s a very unusual step for them.

FDA Investigation into Potential Link between Certain Diets and Canine Dilated Cardiomyopathy | FDA

We changed our dog food because of this, I’m also glad it’s getting noticed.

weklund · 2019-06-30T18:28:59.000Z

Orijen Original

Excellent dog food which my girls love. Pricy … but the best kibble type dog food on the market.

Orijen food contains at least six different kinds of fresh meat and also takes on a “whole prey” model, meaning the foods contain things like organ meat, marrow, and cartilage, all of which wolves would eat in their natural diet.

My Chocolate Lab wolves love their Orijen.

siata94 · 2019-07-02T17:53:59.000Z

Very interesting articles, thanks for sharing…

weklund, hope you don’t find this negative… but take a look at one of the links that specifically named some brands:

https://www.fda.gov/media/128303/download

Orijen is mentioned multiple times, probably because it’s a popular brand. My brand Whole Earth is also named 1x
but my guess is that’s because it’s probably not as popular as other hi-end brands.

And I just bought a new bag this past weekend. I’m likely to stick w/ the same brand just not grain-free next time.

Also… I see you’re in Orange. I ride MTB at Santiago Oaks regularly (you prob recognize the spot from my avatar) usually start from the entrance at the elementary school on Serrano. Let me know if you ride…

weklund · 2019-07-02T18:29:39.000Z

siata94:

Very interesting articles, thanks for sharing…

weklund, hope you don’t find this negative… but take a look at one of the links that specifically named some brands:

https://www.fda.gov/media/128303/download

Orijen is mentioned multiple times, probably because it’s a popular brand. My brand Whole Earth is also named 1x
but my guess is that’s because it’s probably not as popular as other hi-end brands.

And I just bought a new bag this past weekend. I’m likely to stick w/ the same brand just not grain-free next time.

Also… I see you’re in Orange. I ride MTB at Santiago Oaks regularly (you prob recognize the spot from my avatar) usually start from the entrance at the elementary school on Serrano. Let me know if you ride…

Thanks for the info. I am very pleased with Orijen and have raised 5 very healthy Chocolate Labs to a ripe old age with this brand.

Has Orijen dog food ever been recalled?

Yes. There was a recall of Orijen cat food in 2008 that was limited to Australia. The problems had to do with irradiation treatment, required under Australian law. … This brand has never been recalled in the United States or Canada.

Thank you for the offer for a ride-along … but my riding days are limited these days. Scheduled for a little knee surgery shortly.

Happy Trails …

Hoosh · 2019-07-02T18:35:56.000Z

I cook food for my dogs (purebred beagle black lab mix) with the recipes from www.planetpaws.ca and very lightly supplement with Open Farm dry kibble. A labor of love for two very real family members.

Open Farm has never had any recalls, nor are they on that FDA list…

siata94 · 2019-07-02T18:47:29.000Z

Maybe I’m reading those articles wrong but it seems all grain-free would be suspect even if not on the list?

Hoosh · 2019-07-02T19:03:43.000Z

siata94:

Maybe I’m reading those articles wrong but it seems all grain-free would be suspect even if not on the list?

This is, of course, a false cause logical fallacy; even a cursory glance at the FDA list shows animals with problems that were not on grain-free diets. The very first complaint on that list is but one of many examples.

Edited to add that I’m not trying to say there aren’t “problems” that have been associated with grain-free food, but rather just trying to say it’s illogical to lump all grain-free foods together because some (popular) brands are very frequent contributors to that list.

siata94 · 2019-07-02T23:30:29.000Z

Hey, are you always this cheerful or do you get snarky at time?

Hoosh · 2019-07-02T23:41:27.000Z

siata94:

Hey, are you always this truthful or do you get snarky at time?

Fixed it for ya

The spreading of misinformation, be it through guessing or assuming or whatever, is never helpful.

Sorry if I came off “snarky.”

Muto · 2019-07-02T23:57:40.000Z

I read Hoosh’s comment with Mr. Spock in my head and it made it more “Logical”

Jack_Kellar · 2019-07-03T10:44:07.000Z

siata94:

[…] I ride MTB at Santiago Oaks regularly (you prob recognize the spot from my avatar) usually start from the entrance at the elementary school on Serrano.

Cheers, fellow shredder!

clemence · 2019-07-03T12:25:35.000Z

Fresh fish, mostly sardines. Lightly fried to make it sterile

[Clemence]

siata94 · 2019-07-03T17:22:25.000Z

Jack, my bike (170mm travel) shreds, I just hang on… Happy 4th!!!

jon_slider · 2019-09-01T17:45:18.000Z

Gr8Swammee:

https://www.tasteofthewildpetfood.com/

looks bad, taste of the wild has a tall bar of sick reports (but the actual number is tiny)

also looks bad for taste wild, they use peas and sweet potatoes

of course all those charts might be showing, is that owners who go out of their way to find special food for their pet, also go out of their way to report when one of their pets gets sick

since we dont know the number of pets that actually use taste of the wild, for example,
we dont know if the small number of cases is a small percentage of a large population that buys tasteof the wild

all we know from those charts is a few animals got reported as sick, and they were being fed what the owners believed was good food

so, did the food make the pet sick? cant say, not enough info to determine if its simply a matter of thousands of healthy pets and a handful of sick ones

until we know the percent of the population, the mentioned foods may be showing up simply because they have large market share

same with the peas and potatoes
a loving owner chooses grain free, and then reports when their pet gets sick

but think about it… were seeing numbers like 50 sick dogs that ate sweet potatoes, grain free

50 dogs out of how many, 100, 1000, 10,000?

the data sample may a very small percentage of the total population, and the reports may be coming from a very small percentage of owners. Most of the owners are reporting nothing, but they are not mentioned in the charts…

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I bet I could do a study and get tall bars for left handed people that drink water (most do, lol)… But we all know it would be silly to conclude that drinking water causes some people to be left handed

same with taste of the wild
it has sweet potatoes, and some animals who got sick, used that brand
meaningful? Scientific?.. maybe, maybe not… depends how many Not Sick animals there are, so we know what percent is the sick portion… it looks tiny to me… I dont think its good science

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for all I know were just seeing some Trumped up Alternative Facts and fear mongering…

Yourrid · 2019-09-01T17:51:10.000Z

Grain free diets in dogs have led to an increase in heart disease. Your fluffy lap dog doesn’t need fresh meat because an advertisement made you belive it was once a wolf

fireblade893 · 2019-09-01T18:54:25.000Z

Any one tried Burt Wards (AKA Robin from Batman 66) dog food?

I’m not in the USA so can’t get it here but he claims good results for larger dogs.

https://www.gentlegiantsdogfood.com/

Newlumen · 2019-09-02T01:29:57.000Z

The stuff from chewy.com. Anyone know good air purifier that can capture rabbits hairs, dog hairs, pollen and stuff?? Looking to invest on the good quality air purifier for under $120. Thanks

Lightbringer · 2019-09-02T01:51:39.000Z

Doesn’t need to be pet-specific; just get a decent hepa air filter. Sucks out flying hairs, dander, etc.

neo71665 · 2019-09-02T14:08:11.000Z

The 2 raccoons eat table scraps and the cheapest dog food at whatever store I’m at has at the time. During the summer I catch small fish and crawfish for them. Their favorite is watermelons and fresh okra. Trash pandas are not real picky and will eat just about anything but you have to watch you don’t overfeed them.

Bob_McBob · 2019-09-02T15:47:22.000Z

You can’t just tell everyone you have pet raccoons without posting photos.