What's happening in China right now and how it might affect your flashlights

I feel like I’m uniquely positioned to give some information about what’s happening in China right now and how we got here. I will try to be as nuanced and objective as possible. There is unfortunately, not too much objective information that western audiences have easy access to. I also like this site enough to make an effort to provide some info here.

I’ve been in Shenzhen since the start of the pandemic. After the initial outbreak in Wuhan, the rest of China was more or less normal since March of 2020. Classes and work was in person by late spring/the summer of 2020. There were sporadic outbreaks from time to time but usually found and eliminated with less than 100 total cases in a city. However, with the new variants, maintaining “Zero Covid” is increasingly difficult even with strict border controls, high vaccination rates, and sophisticated contact tracking. Now, the outbreak is not just in one or two cities but in over a dozen major cities nationwide at varying degrees of severity. They are pretty much all Omicron outbreaks.

When Omicron hit Hong Kong at the beginning of the year, the infection spilled over to Shenzhen and then to other cities in China. After the 2022 Chinese New Year, Shenzhen has not been able to stamp out the Omicron outbreak (about two dozen positive confirmations a day) despite DAILY citywide tests for about a month. From my perspective, the government is doing a one week lockdown with 3 rounds of full population testing as a last ditch effort.

Many of our beloved flashlight manufacturers are shut down because of this. I don’t believe policies can be in place to shut down factories for longer than a few weeks - the economic cost will be too great. China has a growth target of 5.5% which was just announced by Li Keqiang at the two sessions meeting and it will be impossible to hit with prolonged lockdowns.

Unfortunately, there is no clear and well-communicated offramp from “Zero Covid” for China. I personally would like an end to Zero Covid so I could travel internationally again. However, I also understand that even though China’s population is very highly vaccinated (around 3 billion doses or 90% coverage), the inactivated virus vaccine is not as effective as the MRNA based ones. Omicron caused tons of breakthrough infections in the west, and in countries like Australia, Japan, and South Korea despite the more effective vaccines. Even with the low predicted infection fatality rate of Omicron (probably close to 0.005-0.1%), in a population the size of China, it could mean 1 million deaths.

My prediction is that Shenzhen will be back up and running soon and your flashlights should start shipping again. However, Shenzhen is the richest city in China with the most resources and the rest of China will have an even tougher time with Omicron. Omicron could eventually spill back into Shenzhen from other parts of China. Although, the transmission rate should slow down somewhat over the summer season, and spillovers from other parts of the world should also lessen as Omicron recedes worldwide.

Thanks for the ground zero update. Hopefully you’re all safe and sound and able to get back out there soon. Best Wishes Fog.

Thanks Fogofwar for your informative/objective update of the situation in Shenzhen. If the COVID situation in neighbouring Hong Kong has not improved, it will continue to adversely affect the people in Shenzhen and beyond.

Stay Safe and Good Luck

Thank you for the insights!

Thanks for the kind words. I’m fortunate enough to work online at the beach about 100km away from Shenzhen to ride out the outbreak. The city I’m currently residing at, Huizhou, is not under lockdown.

The outbreak in Shenzhen has still been under 100 confirmed cases per day. There is near zero personal danger to me as I’m a triple vaccinated healthy adult. However, especially with Omicron, you either stop the exponential growth, or you don’t. There really isn’t any in between. What worried the city government and caused the lockdown was an increase in untraceable cases.

Of course, despite my relaxing location, I’m concerned with the myriad of recent consequential world events.

Your input is very much appreciated, thanks for the insights we would not get otherwise.

thanks ! xx

Thank you for your effort.

Spent lots of time in China early (Jan - Mar 2020) and mid (part of 2021) pandemic. Can confirm what he said is accurate.

Thanks so much for the uncensored live news.

Thanks for the update. I hope China can get a handle on this. The seasonal nature of the epidemic should help out. Infection rates are on the decline in the northern hemisphere.

In the United States, however, the CDC Data Tracker reports that death rates are still high. The CDC reported on March 13, 2022 that the 7-day moving average was 1,187 deaths per day. That's down from a high of 2,647 on February 2.

The cumulative total since the start of the pandemic is 965,336 people dead in the United States (as of March 15, 2022), which is considerably more than the 30,000 to 60,000 deaths we average per year from the flu.

This ain't the flu, folks.

One of the problems we face in the USA is our low vaccination rate. I believe it the lowest of all developed countries in western Europe and east Asia. According to the Reuters Global Vaccination Tracker, only 66% of US residents are fully vaccinated.

By the way, the Reuters website is fun to use. It has a global map where you can click any country to see its vaccination rate.

Check it out.

Thanks, somehow your site doesn’t have info on China.

The New York Times tracker has China though: Covid World Vaccination Tracker - The New York Times

Over 3 billion doses have been administered which is astounding. There were pretty much no reporting in western media on Chinese vaccination milestones of 1 billion, 2 billion, and 3 billion. India received far more coverage at their 1 billion milestone for some reason…

However, one thing that the data doesn’t show is that the elderly vaccination rate in China is actually below that of the US. Under the Zero Covid policy, I feel that elderly and perhaps authorities were hoping to free-ride the younger population and use us as a shield. It won’t work with Omicron though. Perhaps, the authorities want to buy time for the elderly with one more Zero Covid push but it could be too late already.

One more thing I would put good money on is that China has done over 10 billion Covid tests at this point. In Shenzhen, most people have done a test a day for 27 days straight in a city with a population of almost 20 million, with typical waiting times of under 30 minutes per day. This is one statistic that is probably hard for most of you to wrap your head around. Personally, I don’t know how to feel about it - it’s both astounding and somewhat terrifying the lengths China is going through for Zero Covid. Even New Zealand abandoned Zero Covid.

Given that Chinese stock market fell 5 percent today, and the war in Ukraine, it could be the beginning of another global recession.

Yeah, I was afraid to link the New York Times, because I often get trapped by a pay-wall when I go to its website.

The testing numbers in China are amazing, especially compared to the USA. Our former president thought the best way to reduce the Covid-19 infection rate was to stop testing for it so darn much!

Uh oh. This looks bad. Just checked at CNN Business:

Asian markets finished mixed as of the most recent closing prices. The Nikkei 225 gained 0.15%, while the Shanghai Composite led the Hang Seng lower. They fell 7.43% and 5.73% respectively.

A nearly 6% decline in one day.

Yep, Chinese markets are dominated by retail investors which are typically very skittish.

Same here i’m limited out on NYT visits, but that link allows for creation of a “free” account for reading.

The testing logic makes sense to any very stable genius—fewer tests will result in lower infection numbers, which is good news! :student: :+1: :laughing: :person_facepalming:

Thank you FoW for excellent inside report.

Oh an easy trick to get NYT paywall is to stop fully loading the page. Press reload and then X before the subscription paywall pops up. For other sites, you can use overlay remover, archive.org, RSS feeds, etc…

Good info, nice to know. :+1:

Omicron being less severe healthwise than previous variants but more virulent (more likely to catch), the easy route for China would be to let it spread widely so plenty of people catch it and develop natural T-cell protection from it against pretty much all variants.

Yeah, letting the Omicron wave wash over is like the cheapest booster if the population is already vaccinated. However, with the population density of China, it is predicted to still cause overwhelming of medical resources like that seen in Hong Kong.

Big yikes… we were doing were doing so well on this thread

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BLF, news you can trust!

My new favorite thread, great to learn from sources in other parts of our world.