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I’d take a look at the BTU Shocker

It is basically a copy of a TK70 head on a 3x18650 body. It is a very moddable flashlight, though. Tom E modded mine to 212kcd and about 4700 lumens.

My only complaint with it is that it uses a reverse clicky switch on the bottom of the light for on/off and mode changes. In a light it’s size, I prefer a secondary switch on the side of the light for modes at least. Either way, its a badass light, a great platform to mod, and a good deal.

I own a Solarforce S2200 MT-G2. It is also a very nice light. It is substantially larger than the TN31. It is a very robustly constructed light with a nice beam patten and a good interface. The tint of the MT-G2 is also a very nice neutral white. My only complaint with it is that you can get a lot more lumens from the same size or smaller package, such as the Thrunite TN30 and Nitecore TM26.

Fasttech used to sell the TM26 for like $250 before they instituted MAP pricing. If you opened a ticket with them or PM them on here, they said they can sell it below MAP pricing.

If you want an honest opinion from a fellow Aussie, heres my take:

I’ve been seriously into lights for nearly 10 years (but always liked and played with them prior)
I have bought some of the most expensive custom and non custom lights CPF (CandlePowerForums) has to offer so I know the ups and downs with this hobby - Other than using them for the usual out door stuff I actually use them as a tool for work and have found over the years that as they are a tool no one light does it all, you need different tools for different jobs. the closest light I have found that does a fairly good all round job are the multi emitter lights, but as you have found out they tend to be big - Nitecore TM series are some of the smallest/compact multies around bar Zebralight .

P60 hosts can make a good cheap standard output host that you can upgrade, but here are some of the cons I have found with P60 hosts:

This all is really only relative if you are a lumen addict and want to get the most out of the leds.

I am always left feeling I want more with them because to start with the reflector was never made for any LED it was actually made for incan bulbs, XR-E leds were OK in them but with almost all other leds there is a compromise like XM-L’s are floody etc.
The tubes are usually thinner as they were made for 2x cr123’s but had to be bored out to accommodate 18650’s giving less mass for hard driven leds as is the head that’s not really big a mass for hard driven leds (but some of solarforce’s later stuff is not too bad) - So…… to fix some of the short falls you can ether use them in short bursts, a lot of the switches weren’t made to take high currant so they can melt, you can get around that with a zerores but its only a twist on or momentary press on. then there’s the heat issue of the head you can over come that with a Cryos cooling bezel or a Beefy heat sinked head

Now after you’ve pimped out your host or bought one already done, yes you can then add pretty much any led set up as a drop in but you are still limited as to output by 1x 18650 battery - yes you can use 2x 18350/16340 but hardly giving you any real long output in high and running 1x 18650 will have power droop, then if you use an extension tube that then hardly makes for a small host not to mention the now bigger heat sink head as well. Custom dropins can cost you anywhere from $60-$120 for single emitters to up to $300 for triples (of which are very floody with no real throw).

A few years ago the P60 host was one of the best and cheapest customish light for pushing the boundaries of leds, so I guess my point is these days lots of manufacturers are designing the lights from the ground up and IMO are cheaper and purpose built.

As a suggestion the EagleTac SX25L3 its about the same length as a P60 host but thicker making it for a comfortable hold - there is a thread on them on CPF - IMO you will get the best of both worlds, good run times good colour rendition flood and throw. they have an XM-L model for throw and the MT-G pumping out 2700 lumens and throwing 317 meters - they also have an upgrade kit that has SS bezel, extra tube with button that tail stands for rear activation, YRGB filters, and a holster. You can get a discount here - 12% off code: CPFSAVE12 (does not work with Google Checkout)

No offence meant to any P60 lovers out there, I’m just giving my take/experience with them that might save someone from going down that can be very expensive road - A top notch P60 host can set you back $400 no probs.

If you want a light shorter than a TK70 and uses 18650 batteries, the TK75 is hard to beat. Other lights that have slowed down my craving for new lights lately are the Black Shadow Terminator, SRK, Nitecore EA4 and EC25, Sunwayman D40A. I’m really enjoying these lights and haven’t really felt the urge to buy more since picking these up,

Wow, what a fantastic reply! I appreciate you taking the time to write all that! I must admit, I have spent a bit of time researching P60 hosts and drop ins etc today. Whilst I like the fact they are easily customisable I keep finding myself looking at a lot of other options and preferring them. The form factor of most of the P60s I have looked at are not really what I am looking for. Besides my C8, I am not a big fan of the end to end 18650 battery tubes with a large head on the end. I find my TN30 a great size, the short but fatter lights I like more. Was just having a look at the SX25L3! and I have to say it looks like an awesome light! great size, MT-G2 emitter, Eagletac quality and well priced. It has certainly been added to the list of what to buy next!

Thanks for the info! I have thought about the TK75. That is one which I will be considering once I have narrowed down my options a bit more. As for the others, I am not keen on the larger torches with handles which writes off the terminator unfortunately. The EA4 is a nice light which I will wouldn’t mind having, the SRK whilst I know gets rave reviews because of its price and output I am not sure what its quality is like when compared to some of the higher end brands? Can it keep up with them on more than just light output? The D40A was one I had been looking at, however since finding out about this Eagletac SX25L3 which is a similar size but with an MT-G2 that would have to be my first pick out of those two! Albeit the Eagletac is a fair bit more expensive! haha

Its so hard to choose just one when there are so many good options. I can see me ending up with more than one and completely dismissing my original budget! haha

You are forgetting the brightest MT-G2 light out there at the moment - the Niwalker Vostro BK-FA-02.

Honestly, I bought a bunch of super light pukers like the tk70, btu shocker, tn30, srk, s2200, tm26, 9xt6 and they are shelf queens. The lights I use every day are the lights I have started to find more interesting. I am a huge fan of pocket clip edc lights like the sunwayman v11r mirage, jetbeam rrt01, and zebralight sc52w. They say the best gun is the one you have with you. They arent very useful when you leave them at home. I feel the same way about flashlights. Maybe start collecting some edc lights.

So which one did you buy? ;)

I went for the FF4 and got 4 Panasonic PD cells for it. Very happy. It’s one hell of a light.

o i c

no Eagletac for you then ;)

Don’t worry the SX25L3 is next on the list. In fact I would have bought it already but I damaged my engine while I was racing my car so my money has been tied up with that for the moment. But soon.

Kreishill, stop shilling for EagTac, you better ramp up that charge project of yours so it gets released sooner than later :D!