Which 21700 Flashlight?

CM2010 · 2018-05-28T20:44:19.000Z

Yep, I’m also waiting on the Wuben A21 to my first 21700.

Lightbringer · 2018-05-28T20:50:15.000Z

ifratos:

Ultrafire AT-01

Noooooooo!!!

They’re pure garbage. Trust me, I made the mistake of getting 2 of ’em for mum to use with 3×AAAs.

Aluminum-foil battery tube, rattling zoomie-head, scratchy switch (great if you like Random Modes At Random Times), and so many things wrong with it, that they’re all an abomination unto the LORD.

Take the bux you’d spend on some AT01s, and toss quarters down the sewer instead. It’d be more amusing than dealing with those crappy lights.

Lightbringer · 2018-05-28T20:52:53.000Z

Oh, they ain’t even Ultrafire, unless UF completely and totally disavowed even giving birth to those lights, ’cause they’re nowhere to be found on the UF site, and UF even lists their own discontinued lights!

I wouldn’t want to be listed as the baby-daddy, either.

KevinZA1988 · 2018-05-28T20:54:58.000Z

Lol. I love my T102 Pro and TO46R. It’s amazing and I will highly recommend them!

yokomus · 2018-06-12T20:48:23.000Z

The Acebeam EC65 might be interesting

ifratos · 2018-06-13T09:30:26.000Z

Lightbringer:

Oh, they ain’t even Ultrafire, unless UF completely and totally disavowed even giving birth to those lights, ’cause they’re nowhere to be found on the UF site, and UF even lists their own discontinued lights!

I wouldn’t want to be listed as the baby-daddy, either.

You broke my heart!

Mine is genuine and works wonderful with swaped XP-G2 and 21700 Lii.

Also UltraFire A100 original or cloned fits 21700.

kmwc72_CN · 2018-06-13T09:53:15.000Z

Manker U22 XHP-35 HI

wstrachan · 2018-10-10T22:38:57.000Z

I think the wuben A21 which i just received is going to be hard to beat. It’s not 4200 lumens in my opinion. Closer to 3400-3600 in comoarison to known lights.
Rofis makes a XHP35 light called the MR30. I am anxiosly awaiting mine in transit from Banggood now.

x-ray · 2018-10-11T00:24:55.000Z

Rofis MR30 looks nice, not much larger than a 18650 light.

Can’t seem to find any reviews online though, anyone have one and care to comment?

wstrachan · 2018-10-11T00:36:41.000Z

The Rofis hasnt been out long enough to be reviewed that i can find. I’ll let you know what i think of it when i get mine in the nect day or so

x-ray · 2018-10-11T01:02:03.000Z

wstrachan:

The Rofis hasnt been out long enough to be reviewed that i can find. I’ll let you know what i think of it when i get mine in the nect day or so

Thank you, much appreciated

DavidEF · 2018-10-11T01:15:14.000Z

That Rofis MR30 does look pretty nice. But it has some oddities to it that I noticed right away with just a quick look just now. There may be others, but here’s a few I noticed. The charging port doubles as a discharge port for using the light as a power bank. But, the port is Micro USB and it comes with a short adapter cord. In spite of taking 21700 and using XHP-35, it only has a max output of 1600lm. A lot of other lights are well past that level right now. Also, in the freeme GB thread, it is mentioned that the light has two step downs when using “Turbo” mode. :person_facepalming:

x-ray · 2018-10-11T01:32:50.000Z

DavidEF:

That Rofis MR30 does look pretty nice. But it has some oddities to it that I noticed right away with just a quick look just now. There may be others, but here’s a few I noticed. The charging port doubles as a discharge port for using the light as a power bank. But, the port is Micro USB and it comes with a short adapter cord. In spite of taking 21700 and using XHP-35, it only has a max output of 1600lm. A lot of other lights are well past that level right now. Also, in the freeme GB thread, it is mentioned that the light has two step downs when using “Turbo” mode. :person_facepalming:

From what I’ve read they appear to be timed step downs, with a couple of clicks you can return to turbo - assuming it’s not too hot to hold

BlueSwordM · 2018-10-11T01:47:08.000Z

@DavidEF, it also uses a single cell boost driver and an XHP35HI.

Almost all single cell XHP35HI lights fail to perform at their 1800-2000 lumen ratings, so 1600 lumens is an accurate rating.

DavidEF · 2018-10-11T01:55:36.000Z

BlueSwordM:

@DavidEF, it also uses a single cell boost driver and an XHP35HI.

Almost all single cell XHP35HI lights fail to perform at their 1800-2000 lumen ratings, so 1600 lumens is an accurate rating.

Yeah, but 1600lm has been done with 3V emitters by some guys here already, with better throw, no donut hole, etc. Who needs a boost driver and a 12V emitter if there’s nothing to gain (nothing desirable anyway)? IMHO, if it’s gonna be a XHP-35 HI, it ought to get a lot better output to make up for the lack of a nice beam profile. :confounded: And it ought to have thermal management rather than a timed double step-down. :person_facepalming:

BlueSwordM · 2018-10-11T01:58:15.000Z

Wait, don’t XHP35-HIs have very nice beam profiles? About as good as XP-L His most of the time actually.

DavidEF · 2018-10-11T02:09:37.000Z

BlueSwordM:

Wait, don’t XHP35-HIs have very nice beam profiles? About as good as XP-L His most of the time actually.

Well, in a recent review of that Rofis light, it had a bad tint shift. So, there’s that. But, what I meant was to have a tight beam for better throw. The XHP-35 doesn’t have nearly as bad a cross or donut hole like the 50’s and 70’s do. But still can’t focus a reflector too well, or you’d get a dark spot where the bright spot is supposed to be, because it’s still a quad die with no light being generated in the ‘center’. Anyway, I’m not knocking the XHP-35. I’m saying that it isn’t ‘better’ than some of the 3V emitters, unless you push it well past 1600lm output.

wstrachan · 2018-10-16T22:01:03.000Z

I have received two 21700 lights. I don’t do reviews but I will give my unbiased opinion:

Rofis MR30. I am extremely pleased with this light! I compared to my Nitecore EDC23 (HXP35 HD, 1800 lumen). The Rofis is noticeably brighter and has better throw (XHP35 HI). It is far superior in run-time and seems extremely well made. The power bank feature is nice as well though unlikely I will use it much.

Wuben A21. I just received it and it’s going to a pickup favorite! It’s not 4200 lumens in my opinion. Closer to 3400-3600 (maybe stretching it to 3700) in comparison to known lights. I have not measured output nor have I measured amps to the LED to do the math. I can say that I am very impressed with the controls, charging and the UI. Build quality is excellent. I have purchased two Wuben products in the past and although they were well made, they performed mediocre at best. My experience is Wuben runs current to the LED on the lighter side of max for reliability (one can assume). This light does not fall in that category. 3-5,000 lumens from a XHP70.2 is not pushing the LED to it’s max but is not conservative either. It’s a beast for its size and I’m sure you will like it!

Rdubya18 · 2018-10-30T00:28:57.000Z

Hi guys , new here. I agree on the A21. Wasn’t too sure about it for the money , but I wanted a 21700 . I really like the beam , it’s impressive for its size. Just bought the Rofis 50 . Haven’t gotten it yet , but I have the 70 , and while it’s sorta just average beam, the side light is pretty cool . The power is nice , but I probably won’t really use it too much. Will most likely get the MR30 also cause I seem to have a problem.

Andrew_Debbie · 2018-10-30T13:04:38.000Z

Can’t believe this thread is still alive. Thanks for all the suggestions.

I ordered a Fireflies PL47 using the group buy coupon. Other moderately priced 21700 lights weren’t interesting enough. The C8F was a runner up. The group buy is still active at —> —> [♛ FreemeGB] Fireflies PL47 Gen II 4*XP-L/ Nichia/ SST20 Hi CRI 21700 Right Angle Flashlight - ENDED

Why did I get the PL47 (XPL HI NW)?

I don’t have another light that does what the PL47 does.

5000lm in compact light.
Andúril out of the box.
Right angle + tail magnet works for me.
Complements my 219C D4S