I have a question about the battery pack included in the Imalent MS12 mini: they are 4 21700 cells, but with a super fast charge in 2 hours, how have they achieved this? would be the same logic as an external charger? And for what reason have they made a battery pack instead of being able to change the batteries individually like in other models?
I wonder what technical decisions were made…
The technical reason is the manufacturer wants to suck you into proprietary technology to make more money. They not only sell you the light but after they sell you overpriced proprietary batteries as well. There is absolutely no other reason. Imalent does this as well as Olight. Complete and absolute nonsense.
Imagine if you needed to buy a replacement light bulb for your house and you found out you can’t go to Lowe’s or Home Depot to get a replacement for $1. Instead you has to get it from the manufacturer of the light fixture for $30.
By using a 2A 16.8V charger, which isn’t that much.
For the pack :
Ok, thanks, so it is safer… and what BMS means?
its also due to safety so ppl wont throw in old crappy batteries and cause damage to the light or yourself.
yes: that’s true, avoid accidents.
While we’re at it, I wanted to ask you the following: for the dt35 and the ms08, imalent explains that, as an emergency, they can be made to work with just 1 battery or 2… but that’s dangerous, is it really dangerous with protected batteries? Or do they mean that it is dangerous with unprotected batteries?
The Eddie Munster-looking guy on yt, Technology Something (dunno his real name or if he even ever made it known), did a video about that, I think. “Disposable” proprietary lighting fixtures, that is.
But yeah, it’s about keeping a captive audience. I was annoyed to find my Tiny Monstor has a proprietary cell and will only work with that. I was under the assumption it’d work with a regular cell but, say, not hit/allow turbo. Nope, seems to not work at all, and “needs” the main connection with the outer ring on the pointy end.
The built in battery pack is the reason I’m not getting one.
I think it’s fine if they use battery back. BMS looks after the batteries without you needing to do it.
4 batteries starts to be that kind of amount, that they easily end up installed wrongly.
You get them right 20 times and only once make a mistake.
To be fair, if flashlight manufacturers weren’t cheap, they could easily include a BMS with series reverse polarity protection.
Not something doabled on a large battery pack, but totally doable on a 1-8 cell flashlight.
With unprotected batteries it might draw too much current and over heat the batteries. Protected cells won’t allow that much current so safer in this case.
I completely agree, every 20 times, I forget to put my underwear on also.
And also I am a poor bastard And very cheap.
I mean if the ms12 sold with changeable batteries, and at a price per emitter/ host reasonable to what budgets are appropriate then I wouldn’t mind throwing my Money at them but otherwise I’m like nah. No thanks. I’m don’t want to pay for brand mark up.
Underwear is also easy to put wrong way. Doesn’t happen often, but every now and then. And people usually don’t use them in series.
Sure, that happens. If your age is in the single digits.