Yea they are SMO reflector only. I’m not a huge fan of OP’s anyways but that’s just me.
The XinDT is the highest quality light I own. Ive never seen such a smooth, mirror finish reflector like this one either. I would have paid double for it easily.
I fixed and upgraded a B-grade Xintd. Good luck doing it in 3 minutes! ;)
Its a reason why he is selling them cheap.
If someone is on a budget, buying one of these might be an easy way to get an Xintd cheap that is nicely usable despite the off center emitter. At least mine looked pretty decent even with the emitter a bit of center)
I still think Convoy L4 is the best "C8" light. But that is more due to looks and personal preference.
Hi. I ordered one. I’ll thank you for the heads up, for now anyway 
I’m guessing these B grades only come in 1 configuration? I put a note for a 4 mode, we’ll see what happens.
To someone who knows, what will the beam look like with an off centered emitter? Will it be that bad?
thanks.
If Hank is available, can message him to get more information about left stock.
e.g. some answers when I order mine:
“Sorry, there is no 4D option for the B grade C8, only the 3C, and 1A.”
“Yes, it’s ok, but only 3 modes —-> Yes, low, medium, high.”
Well, you guys must have snapped up the last ones. I looked at Hanks site today and they are no longer listed. I’m surprised they lasted as long as they did.
Thanks for bringing up the $15 clearance special, I confess to being a silent buyer yesterday, hard to resist at that price. Could be a first try at a dedome project?
thanks. Were these with the XM-L2 emitter?
Yes.
Ohhhhhhh nooooooooo, they’re all gone! Arrrrrrrgh………………
Good think I pull the trigger on the XP-G2 version 2 weeks ago before it was too late. Hopefully it will arrive this week.
Lucky you! 
I got two B-grade XinTD in the mail today. I didn't think to ask about emitter bins when I ordered and recieved two boxes marked 3C. They could be warmer, I'll have to do some comparison tests. 3C is not my favorite tint, but in can always change them.
Off center emitter
Okay. Don't let these beam shots scare you. These were taken with an ipad, which likes to ignore periferal (spill) light, and concentrate it in a central area. In real life there is a hotspot with fully lit spill surrounding it. I adjusted the ipad camera so I could best get a representation of the off center hotspot. The purple surrounding it is fully illuminated spill in real life.
This first shot shows how the halo surrounding the the hot spot shifts more to one side. The hotspot is not as big or asdefined in real life...remember folks, ipad camera and concentrated light.
I put it on the HDR setting which blacked out the entire spill, and is only showing the hotspot and off center halo.
These are ceiling shots, so outdoors in the wild. This will not be as noticeable.
I got a tail reading between 2.8A and 2.9A With an IMR
I think trying to melt the solder and shifting the Noctigon will be a bit of a hassle. Trying to get the screw in reflector centered will probably be a pain.
I don't see any excess solder around the outside of the Noctigon, so I think there is only a thin layer. When I get time, I'll remove the driver and place the pill in a frying pan until the solder melts and remove the star. I'll sand off the solder and remount the star with thermal paste and a low profile centering disc. I might even install a FET driver for fun.
thanks Ouchyfoot for your post and pictures. I had e-mailed Hank and asked for a 4 mode, and he OK. I was surprised as I thought they would all be the same. We’ll see. I didn’t specify a tint. I wanted the 4 mode for moonlight.
In your opinion, on a scale of 1-10, how would u rate this offer?
If that off centered halo is the problem, I can live with that. It’s like a ‘handicapped’ beam
thanks again.
patrick
shipping was pretty quick?
BTW, the moon mode on my XinTD C8 V4 is interesting. It’s just as dim as other lights’ moon modes, so totally useless unless it’s very dark, but it’s focused so it gives moon at a somewhat long range.
I like the moon mode, but I don’t think I’ve honestly ever had a use for it. I have smaller lights for moon-type purposes, and don’t often need to light up a small area 5 meters away to just moon levels. I mostly only use a C8-style light when I need to see things far away, since the size is a bit excessive for anything else.
In a focused C8 the hotspot is small and perfectly even, very defined.
Last week I got a B-grade XinTd C8 V5 (XM-L2 T6-3C) and a B-grade CUXML dropin. The off center emitters are exactly the same as Ouchyfoot’s picture.
And this morning I just got another set of both. Here are the alignment
!
!
I would not blame if they are claimed as the A-grade product.
Another option for 'fixing' the ones with mis-centered LEDs is to just use a plain C8 reflector, especially if you want it more throwy. The XRE wide base reflector works better.
That’s a clever idea. I have a smooth C8 reflector on hand, and I think it’s the XRE one you suggest. My emitter is extremely close to being perfectly centered. I added in a spacer between the emitter and reflector. The result was a near perfect beam. This wouldn’t have worked if my emitter was as off center as some of the example pictures in earlier replies. Mine was so close to centered that I had to really look at it closely to see that it wasn’t perfect.
I rebuilt one of my B-grade XinTDs today.
It took a little time, mostly fiddly stuff. The hardest part was getting the driver out. With the brass pill I couldn't get the solder to release the driver. when I finally had enough heat, the springs and wires had all fallen off, and some of the chips had shifted. I wasn't going to use the stock driver anyway.
To remove the emitter , I placed the pill in a frying pan and let it heat until I could lift out the entire Noctigon. The pill had blobs of solder that would be impossible to sand in that little area, so I blasted it with a mini torch and twisted back and forth with a scrunched up brass mesh solder tip cleaner. Three times and the pill was smooth. I also sanded the bottom of the star. I used AA and a low profile centering wing.
I installed a BLF17DD driver with 22AWG Teflon wire. I knew the driver would be nice and tight in the pill, and didn't want to muck about with a solder connection, so I had soldered one end of a wire to the inside of the pill, and the other end to the FETs ground leg. I won't have to worry about losing ground to the pill.
I'm getting 5.3A with whatever cell I had handy. It's pretty perky now and I think the 3C tint is nicer with some extra oomph behind it. I like it.
I kept installing the reflector and testing the light with a battery holder and leads, and it would be fine. Every time I installed the battery tube and tested with a cell and my DMM I got no light. I insulated the reflector with Klapton tape, tested it with battery leads...good to go. I screwed in the tube and tested with the DMM...nothing.
After taking it apart four times I realized that I had somehow blown the fuse in my multi-meter. Since the ohm-meter doesn't work off that fuse, it was fine while I was checking for shorts. It was driving me nuts.
I think I'll throw an XP-G2 in my other XinTD.