Zooming Model List (2018 Updated) Tell us about your newest zoomie!

beam0 · 2018-02-09T06:08:30.000Z

(Added to list)- a higher quality zoomie?

Looks like a flat lens, Fresnel type? Or maybe just a flat outer lens?

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Bo4ka · 2018-02-09T07:27:29.000Z

What’s the longest throwing zoomie?

beam0 · 2018-02-09T08:19:12.000Z

Zoomie with triple LED, very strange… it throws 3 separate spots!

I wonder if they come together in flood mode.

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beam0 · 2018-02-09T08:21:05.000Z

Bo4ka:

What’s the longest throwing zoomie?

Personally I don’t know, maybe one of the Uniquefire 14xx 15xx ?

beam0 · 2018-02-09T08:21:50.000Z

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16340 Ultrafire

12000 Lumen ! :person_facepalming:

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Mini-Tactical-Flashlight-Zoomable-12000LM

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Mike_C · 2018-02-09T11:06:55.000Z

I have an interest in zoomies as I use them for underground photography, and the wideness of the flood beam as one of my main interests. I’ve clicked on all zoomies in the OP and I think very few of them can match the wide flood of this one: https://www.fasttech.com/products/1601/10002775/1206500 (comes in a variety of different “brands”).
I have quite a selection of zoomies and so far this one is unrivaled in terms of wide flood, so obviously I think your list is incomplete without at least one that uses the same host.

Thanks for the list though, I’ve spotted one or two that might be able to compete with my favorite and will order. The Warsun looks particularly interesting because of it’s sliding distance. In a sliding zoomie the sliding distance is a tell tale sign of how much the beam width can be adjusted. After all the zoomies I’ve been through I know if a sliding zoomie has sliding distance of less than 1.5 cm I don’t have to bother with it.

raccoon · 2018-02-09T12:37:49.000Z

Mike C:

I’ve clicked on all zoomies in the OP and I think very few of them can match the wide flood of this one: https://www.fasttech.com/products/1601/10002775/1206500(link is external)(comes in a variety of different “brands”).

Do you know if that zoomie comes in a non-disco flavor?

Mike_C · 2018-02-09T14:47:29.000Z

raccoon city:

Do you know if that zoomie comes in a non-disco flavor?

Good question… I don’t know if I’ve ever turned one on in stock form before ripping out it’s internals. I have a few unmodified still intact waiting for drivers so I can check. It will be after the weekend though, because I’m hitting the road as soon as my coffee is finished.

kramer5150 · 2018-02-09T16:41:35.000Z

beam0:

kramer5150:

Great work!!
I love my UF-1504. Got it from MTN as a DIY host and theirs is a generic unbranded version. Paired with a FET boost driver, XPL-HI V3 and IMR 26650 its all I need. It ewasily far out-throws the range of my own vision, which admittedly is very poor, even with my coke bottle glasses. For the price I paid, and its overall size I don’t think I can get more peak lux AND open flood when defocused. I want to try the UF-1508, but my understanding is that it doesn’t zoom far out at all, so its only good for one thing.

For the longest time I hated zoomy lights, but the 1504 changed all that. When it is de-focused it has a very wide flood beam… very versatile and useful.

Thanks, and thanks for posting about your 1504, nice photos!

I wonder if one was built like yours but with regular XPL (not HI) would it have more light/brightness in full flood mode, but still have some good throw?

Hard to say without actually building one and comparing. Lots of zoom-light comparisons on BLF, and afiak none of them really focus on the flood beam performance.

FWIW… I found this thread very interesting from Argo, direct comparing the 1504, Z1 and 158 using de-dome emitters.

Looking for a zoomie, got questions LED Flashlights – General Info

Hello, I’m looking for a zoomie. I want it to: fit in a jacket pocket have good throw have good output when zoomed out have good quality be at most moderately expensive tint doesn’t matter I want it to work good both at short and long ranges. I see that UF-1504 fits the needs. I don’t see anything that would beat it, but I’d love too be shown such light. Bonus points for e-switch, but this time performance matters more than convenience. Now, let’s assume that I go with 1504. What emitter s…

Post 9 has the lux data:

Looking for a zoomie, got questions LED Flashlights – General Info

I’m collecting kcd numbers to 1504, B158 and Z1. All domed emitters below have been dedomed XP-L V6: 1504: 270 361 B158: 211 240 XP-L HI ??: B158: 150 170 XM-L2 U2: B158: 220 XM-L2 U3: 1504: 300 384 XM-L2 U4: 1504: 396 434 435 XP-G2 S4 1504: 350 446 452 458 Z1: 200 240 245 B158: 220 238 322 330 330 335 341 XP-G2 S3 1504: 343 425 434 XP-G2 S2 1504: 425 428 Z1: 228 B158: 270 XP-G2 R5 1504: 409 XP-G2 ?? Z1: 175 195 200 215 230 B158: 310 XHP35 HI ?? 1…

XP-L V6:
1504: 270 361
B158: 211 240

XP-L HI ??:
B158: 150 170

XM-L2 U2:
B158: 220

XM-L2 U3:
1504: 300 384

XM-L2 U4:
1504: 396 434 435

XP-G2 S4:
1504: 350 446 452 458
Z1: 200 240 245
B158: 220 238 322 330 330 335 341

XP-G2 S3
1504: 343 425 434

XP-G2 S2:
1504: 425 428
Z1: 228
B158: 270

beam0 · 2018-02-09T15:37:44.000Z

Mike C:

I have an interest in zoomies as I use them for underground photography, and the wideness of the flood beam as one of my main interests. I’ve clicked on all zoomies in the OP and I think very few of them can match the wide flood of this one: https://www.fasttech.com/products/1601/10002775/1206500 (comes in a variety of different “brands”).
I have quite a selection of zoomies and so far this one is unrivaled in terms of wide flood, so obviously I think your list is incomplete without at least one that uses the same host.

Thanks for the list though, I’ve spotted one or two that might be able to compete with my favorite and will order. The Warsun looks particularly interesting because of it’s sliding distance. In a sliding zoomie the sliding distance is a tell tale sign of how much the beam width can be adjusted. After all the zoomies I’ve been through I know if a sliding zoomie has sliding distance of less than 1.5 cm I don’t have to bother with it.

I’m glad you enjoyed my list! Great info about flood and linking that light, thanks for posting!

I also like the even flood of a zoomie, so I’ll probably be getting one of these for my self now too, on your recommendation - especially since it will out flood all the others, and I’ve listed many. I see fasttech even put “excellent flood” in the title and “Great flood light” in the description. So I’m curious to try one and see this. One thing I don’t like is that it has next mode memory.

I see fasttech also has it in brown color too: https://www.fasttech.com/products/1601/10002775/1206401-1-led-5-mode-zooming-led-flashlight
NMM isn’t listed for the brown one, but I know FT specs are often inaccurate.
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Do you think this UltraFire is the same flashlight? (looks exactly the same) https://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10001759/1148800-ultrafire-1-led-zooming-5-mode-840-lumen-led

Specs show it’s 8mm longer and looks like a different UI (Looks like it starts on Mid instead of High) also it doesn’t show next mode memory in the description. Also comes in brown (“Coffee”) https://www.fasttech.com/products/1649/10001759/1134205

I couldn’t find it on the “Genuine” UltraFire website, but while checking I did find a few other interesting ones there that I previously overlooked.

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I’d like a brown one, and curious to see what you think about the UltraFire version. I actually prefer start on High but better if no NMM. Also have you modded yours? I’d love to hear about that too!

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I’ve added the one you linked to the list, will wait to hear what you think about the UltraFire version before I add that one too. I’ll be on the lookout for more re-branded twins.

Brown version:

beam0 · 2018-02-09T16:00:07.000Z

kramer5150:

beam0:

kramer5150:

Great work!!
I love my UF-1504. Got it from MTN as a DIY host and theirs is a generic unbranded version. Paired with a FET boost driver, XPL-HI V3 and IMR 26650 its all I need. It ewasily far out-throws the range of my own vision, which admittedly is very poor, even with my coke bottle glasses. For the price I paid, and its overall size I don’t think I can get more peak lux AND open flood when defocused. I want to try the UF-1508, but my understanding is that it doesn’t zoom far out at all, so its only good for one thing.

For the longest time I hated zoomy lights, but the 1504 changed all that. When it is de-focused it has a very wide flood beam… very versatile and useful.

Thanks, and thanks for posting about your 1504, nice photos!

I wonder if one was built like yours but with regular XPL (not HI) would it have more light/brightness in full flood mode, but still have some good throw?

Hard to say without actually building one and comparing. Lots a of zoom-lighjt comparisons on BLF, and afiak none of them really focus on the flood beam performance.

FWIW… I found this thread very interesting from Argo, direct comparing the 1504, Z1 and 158 using de-dome emitters.
Looking for a zoomie, got questions

Post 9 has the lux data:
Looking for a zoomie, got questions - #9 by Agro

XP-L V6:
1504: 270 361
B158: 211 240

XP-L HI ??:
B158: 150 170

XM-L2 U2:
B158: 220

XM-L2 U3:
1504: 300 384

XM-L2 U4:
1504: 396 434 435

XP-G2 S4
1504: 350 446 452 458
Z1: 200 240 245
B158: 220 238 322 330 330 335 341*

XP-G2 S3
1504: 343 425 434

XP-G2 S2
1504: 425 428
Z1: 228
B158: 270

That’s a great thread, lots of info, just skimmed over now but I’ll go back when I have more time.Thanks for posting.

kramer5150 · 2018-02-09T16:57:29.000Z

That’s a great thread, lots of info, just skimmed over now but I’ll go back when I have more time.Thanks for posting.

Sure… I think others have done similar comparisons. But what I like about Argos measurements is they look to be a “survey” type of data collection for each LED. So they are not singular data points for any of the participants.

I bolded the comparisons that I think are most useful, directly comparing the 3 candidates with multiple data entries.

I bolded the de-dome XM-L2 U4 data because I think this is the closest one to my XPL-HI V3 build… maybe?

beam0 · 2018-02-09T23:51:24.000Z

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I wasn’t aware there was a 502 zoomie…
…added

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beam0 · 2018-02-10T00:12:55.000Z

(Added) Zoomie with Ramping UI (Stepless Dimming), side switch and USB charging

I have the non-zooming version of this and it’s actually pretty good.

Newlumen · 2018-02-10T03:23:37.000Z

Since i am keeping as a stock, i am leaning on the jaxman z1 xhp50.2.

beam0 · 2018-02-10T15:51:26.000Z

Newlumen:

Since i am keeping as a stock, i am leaning on the jaxman z1 xhp50.2.

That’s the “Shorty” (2x26350) in Cool White.

If I’m correct, that’s the only Z1 option with xhp50.2

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I’m not sure why they don’t use the same single cell driver that they use in their X1 flood version?

Both lights show the same emitter choices.
Both lights have the same driver size (22mm)

So I see no reason the Z1 with XHP cannot have single cell like the X1.

Maybe I’m missing something looking at their listings, which an often be confusing due to contradictory terms. I may message them to get the answers if someone else doesn’t chime in here and let me know.

I’m also considering a Z1, I’m pretty sure (not 100%) this is the highest quality zoomie of it’s size on the list. Specifically referring to the quality of the optics and zooming threads. This is what I understand from reading threads on the Z1 here.

I’d like to see them offer the xhp50.2 in NW and/or other tints.

Also I like this mil. style holster they sell for the Z1: FLYYE-FY-PH-C033-protective-sleeve-bag

Newlumen · 2018-02-11T03:41:48.000Z

I changed my mind. I want to go with the jaxman z1 xhp50 ( 2x 26650)… item is not available… i send message to bo ( jaxman). So i will update when i get replied from him.

Newlumen · 2018-02-11T03:47:01.000Z

I got the replied back… its chinese new year, so not until feb 25th… i guess i have to wait…

beam0 · 2018-02-11T04:37:43.000Z

Newlumen:

I changed my mind. I want to go with the jaxman z1 xhp50 ( 2x 26650)… item is not available… i send message to bo ( jaxman). So i will update when i get replied from him.

Newlumen:

I got the replied back… its chinese new year, so not until feb 25th… i guess i have to wait…

At least you got a quick reply!

Just curious what made you decide on the 2x26650 XHP50 instead of the XHP50.2?

beam0 · 2018-02-11T04:46:35.000Z

beam0:

I’m not sure why they don’t use the same single cell driver that they use in their X1 flood version?

Both lights show the same emitter choices.

Both lights have the same driver size (22mm)

So I see no reason the Z1 with XHP cannot have single cell like the X1.

I messaged Jax to get an answer on this.