The GT, Proto V2 arrived!, the BLF special giga thrower

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a TN40 with 8700 lumens, is that a typo?

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Texas_Ace wrote:
a TN40 with 8700 lumens, is that a typo?

no , its modded
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can i please be put on the damn list… i really didnt want to, and i avoided this post for long enough… but its time.

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My rough guestimate on the throw for this light is 1,100 to 1,300 kcd with a good stock XHP35 HI. djozz had a good estimate posted way back based on the TN42's performance and it's reflector size, again, assuming we got the optics and LED as good as the TN42's, and the driver producing the amps expected.

1,200 kcd is a rated distance of 2,191 meters, or 7,188 feet, or 1.36 miles. Formula for candela to distance (meters):

 

    SQRT (1200*4), from here: http://flashlightwiki.com/Light_Output_Measurements:

 

Throw

An actual distance for throw can be directly calculated from the candela value and will be given in meters. The FL-1 standard does just this by providing a light intensity reading in candela and converting this to throw in meters by calculated the distance at which the light will generate 0.25 lux. Throw is just the square root of the light intensity in candela divided by 0.25 lux which gives meters.

Eqn-throw.png
 

 

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Texas_Ace wrote:
a TN40 with 8700 lumens, is that a typo?

One of the the TN40vn spec’s does 500k lux and 8,700 lumens. It’s a crazy high output thrower for sure.

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WaylonJennings wrote:
Texas_Ace wrote:
a TN40 with 8700 lumens, is that a typo?

One of the the TN40vn spec’s does 500k lux and 8,700 lumens. It’s a crazy high output thrower for sure.

Just checked it out. Uses XHP35 HI. Pretty potent combination.

On the other hand, 4 well-driven dedomed XPL V6 might get you 6500 lumens out-the-front, with a bit better throw than the XHP35 HI.

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EasyB wrote:
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Texas_Ace wrote:
a TN40 with 8700 lumens, is that a typo?

One of the the TN40vn spec’s does 500k lux and 8,700 lumens. It’s a crazy high output thrower for sure.

Just checked it out. Uses XHP35 HI. Pretty potent combination.

On the other hand, 4 well-driven dedomed XPL V6 might get you 6500 lumens out-the-front, with a bit better throw than the XHP35 HI.


here is tn40 on left, ….tn42 middle, tk61 right…all modded…..

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Nice beamshots!
Modded? How
And what do they in terms of heat?

Vamper, yes will update list later

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Ah, I was getting the TN40 mixed up with another light, I thought it was a single LED thrower. I see now it is a quad LED, that makes way more sense.

As you might could tell, I don’t pay much attention to “brand name lights”.

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I wouldn’t mind seeing a quad sized GT like a bigger TN40
but first the GT then the GM Giga Monster if it is cool to do Big Smile

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I wouldn’t mind seeing a quad sized GT like a bigger TN40 but first the GT then the GM Giga Monster if it is cool to do Big Smile

yeah, 10,000 lumens, and 1 mill lux would be a show stopper ! Shocked

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nodoubt wrote:
The Miller wrote:
I wouldn’t mind seeing a quad sized GT like a bigger TN40 but first the GT then the GM Giga Monster if it is cool to do Big Smile

yeah, 10,000 lumens, and 1 mill lux would be a show stopper ! Shocked


Rather a bad guy stopper with its strobe mode… Wink
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The Miller wrote:
Nice beamshots!
Modded? How
And what do they in terms of heat?

Vamper, yes will update list later

vn modded
tk61 ice cold for days
tn42, warm after 5 minutes or so, still useable after 10 solid minutes
tn40, warm in 1 minute, ouch thats hot, in 3 minutes, cigar lighter or personal heater in the winter in 4 minutes Shocked

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Got anymore updates or teaser pics? Cool

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Hehe, I’m giving in to the pressure. Could I be put down for a second GT please? I’m holding back the urge for a 3rd.

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The Miller wrote:
I wouldn’t mind seeing a quad sized GT like a bigger TN40 but first the GT then the GM Giga Monster if it is cool to do Big Smile

Put me in on that list CoolLove

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Got anymore updates or teaser pics? Cool

Funny you should mention that – #1 of the approval prototypes is just in! I have had a stupid grin on my face for the last two hours. This thing is ridiculously huge – I love it! Big Smile

First impressions are great. These are obvious prototypes, few small surface imperfections on mine. But the anodizing, machining, fit, finish is excellent otherwise. Mine is a shorty, but the head is less heavy than expected and the imbalance is not too bad. Should note that the LED bin/tint is unknown. Would have to guess a 2B or 1C for the tint, cool with a hint of green. The production units will have 3D.

Cell holder is pretty nice, solid and ergonomic for swapping out cells.

NarsilM was not set to the default ramping mode and was confusing for a second. Set it back to ramping and did not look back.

Ran it against a stock Olight M3Xs (250 kcd) and an L2 host fitted with an XPL-Hi and FET driver. Measured at 10 m:

L2: 1430 lux, 143 kcd, 756 m
M3Xs: 1960 lux, 196 kcd, 885 m
GT: 8850 lux, 885 kcd, 1881 m

EDIT: Those cells were only half charged and sagging enough for the buck to drop out of regulation.
A set of 30Qs at 4 V gives 10600 lux at 10 m. That is 1.06 Mcd or 2.059 km of throw.

Had it running for several minutes while taking measurements. This thing is a beast, body/head did not even get luke-warm.

Out of the box:

Some BLF favorites for scale:

My closest contender for throw:

My closest contender for size:

Business end:

Details:

Battery tube and end cap. Someone had the cell-holder in backwards at some time, some brass transfer inside the cap:

Excellent threads:

Cell holder, very nice design. Driver end:

Back end, to mate with second holder:

Springs look just about perfect for both protected and unprotected cells. These protected PFs have about 3 mm compression left:

High quality PCB ends:

Driver, conventional retaining ring:

Waiting for the dark. Driver autopsy to follow later Big Smile

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amazing… only thing i can say. except that the lux really falls short of the expected 1.2 mil.

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I am smiling in anticipation of my proto showing up tomorrow or the next day. It looks great.

Curious what the throw numbers will do at further distance, with a reflector this large it could take some distance for the beam to truly focus / converge.

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R10500 wrote:
amazing… only thing i can say. except that the lux really falls short of the expected 1.2 mil.

Do not put too much on my numbers yet. That meter shorts the M3xs as well.

Trees at the end of the lot is 500 ft/150 m away. ISO100, 2s exposure, manual white balance, unedited. Set of so-so cells from my M6, photo does not do it justice:

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that’s actually very nice, just the rightsize at such a distance. definitely not going to have to worry about blinding people(not those who shouldn’t be expecting a beam in their face anyway haha) when pointing somewhere further downrange.

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Hold the press. My 3 meters agree, but the cells were sagging and the buck was not in regulation.

A set of 30Qs at 4 V gives 10600 lux at 10 m. That is 1.06 Mcd or 2.059 km of throw.

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So a confirmed 1mcd! Not bad at all!

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The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. --Herbert Spencer , English Philosopher (1820-1903)

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hurrah! my spare GA’s are impatiently waiting to unleash their true potential with this monster Evil the beamshots i’m going to take when the GT starts rolling off the line….

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that head with a short tube look awfully wrong but i like that. Silly

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Finally dark. Exposure increased to 5 s, and I think this is closer to what the eye sees. Tree at 500 ft / 150 m.

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The GT, a BLF special giga thrower
OK good news
LUMINTOP is going to build and sell the BLF GT

I enter in: http://www.lumintop.com/
open account new

I use google translate
How to open account?
How to register with Lumintop?
How to buy at Lumintop?
Please help.
Or +5 days and I do not buy BLF GT

Same Website Misconception?
No http://www.lumintop.com/
Yes, … www.amazon.es/bricolage-Lumintop
O … www.amazon.com/LUMINTOP-Flashlight-
O ¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ?

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Do you have a picture of the short light being hand-held ? Also, is the short tube going to be available as an accessory?

Could you please add me to the list for one. Thank you.

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Thanks DEL for the update. Hopefully I’ll have a stupid grin on my face tonight.

My current and or voltage measurements are only relevent to anything that I measure.

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pepinfaxera wrote:
The GT, a BLF special giga thrower
OK good news
LUMINTOP is going to build and sell the BLF GT

I enter in: http://www.lumintop.com/
open account new

I use google translate
How to open account?
How to register with Lumintop?
How to buy at Lumintop?
Please help.
Or +5 days and I do not buy BLF GT

Same Website Misconception?
No http://www.lumintop.com/
Yes, … www.amazon.es/bricolage-Lumintop
O … www.amazon.com/LUMINTOP-Flashlight-
O ¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ?

Don’t panic. There’s plenty of time and no one is taking money at this time. Maybe you can get a fellow countryman to walk you through it.

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